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And what is he actually arrested _for_?

celticninja 8y ago
computer related activities according to the extradition request
Arnt 8y ago
Not turning up where he promised to turn up. If you tell the judge you'll be there Monday morning 9:00, you need to turn up or have a good excuse. "I don't trust you" is not the right kind.
- celticninja 8y ago
  He was arrested for breaching bail conditions, which is not a criminal offence. Police either have to charge him (so he goes before a judge) or release him within 24 hours on the same bail conditions. They took the opportunity while he was in that 24 hour period to arrest him on a US extradition request.
- crispinb 8y ago
  You're referring to a separate arrest of Assange for skipping bail. That's not what this article is about. Far be it from me to suggest you didn't read it.
  - Arnt 8y ago
    Admittedly, I mixed up my browser tabs and thought I was commenting in a HN thread about the BBC story on Assange's arrest. I think I read the Met page directly after posting that comment. The point still stands — he was arrested on a matter between him and the English court system. That the original reason why he should've appeared in court is obsolete doesn't mean that he could disregard the court. EDIT: Maybe I misunderstand something. I thought a summons involves being handed a fat envelope and signing a receipt that basically says "I have received <that envelope> and promise to do as instructed within". Isn't that correct? What is a summons, if not that?
    - crispinb 8y ago
      > The point still stands ... It's an entirely separate (and frankly relatively trivial) issue. This part of the discussion involves whether or not Assange's arrest was a consequence of (in @pvg's words) 'his journalistic activities'. It clearly was. See Greenwald's analysis in the Intercept today, with quotes directly from the extradition request. The extradition attempt is part of an ongoing assault by the US government on investigative journalism. > I thought a summons .. The legal docs involved here are an arrest warrant and extradition request. It's well beyond the summons stage.
- atemerev 8y ago
  And how it is related to his extradition to the US?
Yetanfou 8y ago
In a statement, the Home Office said: "We can confirm that Julian Assange was arrested in relation to a provisional extradition request from the United States of America. "He is accused in the United States of America computer related offences." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/julian-assange-expelled-ecuadorian-embassy-arrested-metropolitan1/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/julian-assange-e... Or, if that doesn't stick, for skipping bail in Sweden: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/13/judge-refuses-to-withdraw-julian-assange-arrest-warrant https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/13/judge-refuses-...
- atemerev 8y ago
  Is he an American citizen to be tried by the US government? Or had he committed some crimes on the US territory?
  - IshKebab 8y ago
    You can extradite people who aren't your citizens. He is presumably accused of hacking into US computers.
    - atemerev 8y ago
      Except he didn't. He hosted classified information obtained by other people, but it is another story, and its legality is disputed. "Computer-related offences" -- is this now enough to extradite people without probable cause and solid legal case?

computer related activities according to the extradition request

Arnt 8y ago

Not turning up where he promised to turn up. If you tell the judge you'll be there Monday morning 9:00, you need to turn up or have a good excuse. "I don't trust you" is not the right kind.

celticninja 8y ago
He was arrested for breaching bail conditions, which is not a criminal offence. Police either have to charge him (so he goes before a judge) or release him within 24 hours on the same bail conditions. They took the opportunity while he was in that 24 hour period to arrest him on a US extradition request.
crispinb 8y ago
You're referring to a separate arrest of Assange for skipping bail. That's not what this article is about. Far be it from me to suggest you didn't read it.
- Arnt 8y ago
  Admittedly, I mixed up my browser tabs and thought I was commenting in a HN thread about the BBC story on Assange's arrest. I think I read the Met page directly after posting that comment. The point still stands — he was arrested on a matter between him and the English court system. That the original reason why he should've appeared in court is obsolete doesn't mean that he could disregard the court. EDIT: Maybe I misunderstand something. I thought a summons involves being handed a fat envelope and signing a receipt that basically says "I have received <that envelope> and promise to do as instructed within". Isn't that correct? What is a summons, if not that?
  - crispinb 8y ago
    > The point still stands ... It's an entirely separate (and frankly relatively trivial) issue. This part of the discussion involves whether or not Assange's arrest was a consequence of (in @pvg's words) 'his journalistic activities'. It clearly was. See Greenwald's analysis in the Intercept today, with quotes directly from the extradition request. The extradition attempt is part of an ongoing assault by the US government on investigative journalism. > I thought a summons .. The legal docs involved here are an arrest warrant and extradition request. It's well beyond the summons stage.
atemerev 8y ago
And how it is related to his extradition to the US?

Yetanfou 8y ago

In a statement, the Home Office said: "We can confirm that Julian Assange was arrested in relation to a provisional extradition request from the United States of America. "He is accused in the United States of America computer related offences." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/julian-assange-expelled-ecuadorian-embassy-arrested-metropolitan1/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/11/julian-assange-e... Or, if that doesn't stick, for skipping bail in Sweden: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/13/judge-refuses-to-withdraw-julian-assange-arrest-warrant https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/13/judge-refuses-...

atemerev 8y ago
Is he an American citizen to be tried by the US government? Or had he committed some crimes on the US territory?
- IshKebab 8y ago
  You can extradite people who aren't your citizens. He is presumably accused of hacking into US computers.
  - atemerev 8y ago
    Except he didn't. He hosted classified information obtained by other people, but it is another story, and its legality is disputed. "Computer-related offences" -- is this now enough to extradite people without probable cause and solid legal case?