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Why buy a car you'll own and pay for the whole year based on the usage for a few weeks? Wouldn't it make more sense to rent a road trip car when you need it?

mrweasel 8y ago
I don't know about Switzerland, but renting a car is pretty expensive in some countries. So buying something like a Tesla, or another car, with high resale value may be the better deal, even if you only need it for a month or two a year.
- bluedino 8y ago
  In the USA you can get a Ford Fusion from $40-$50 a day with unlimited miles. And that's not including special prices or discounts
  - mrweasel 8y ago
    I believe that in Denmark it's closer to $120 per day, 100km included for a small car (European small, not US small). It's financially viable to go to Germany and rent a car and drive from there, if you need to drive around in Europe.
Ma8ee 8y ago
Yes! This is something that I have wondered for a long time. Why do people buy a car that covers all possible usecases for all year around instead of buying one that is ideal for daily use and then rent a bigger car for the week or two when you need it? It would be better for the wallet and for the environment.
- wil421 8y ago
  I have a car payment, pay to maintain my car, and fees to drive it. Why would I buy a car knowing I would have to rent a car several times a year to go on vacation?
  - mcv 8y ago
    Good point. Plenty of people choose to not own a car at all, and only rent when they need one.
  - ryanhuff 8y ago
    One reason I do is to avoid the mileage I put on a vacation car. I could travel 1,500 miles across several states while on a vacation trip. That’s 1-2 months of normal driving that I instead put on rental car for about $150.
    - bluedino 8y ago
      1,5000 miles * 0.50 = $750 even subtracting gasoline (25mpg @ $3.00/gal) $180 you're still coming out like $500 ahead vs wear and tear on your car
      - qubitcoder 8y ago
        Plenty of rental car companies offer unlimited mileage (especially in the US, Avis in particular). I spent nearly a decade as a consultant traveling extensively throughout the US and Europe--and unlimited mileage rentals could be had for a reasonable and often surprisingly cheap price. I never understood why people opted to pay by the mile.
  - 1123581321 8y ago
    Most people do not take several vacations a year that require long drives.
- Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
  Because there are many great cars that fit all those requirements and that are usually cheaper than a current Tesla, better equiped than a Tesla (autopilot being the single exception, even though BMW, Porsche, VW and many others already have lane assist which is basically a little worse (but still comparable) version of Tesla's autopilot). Why bother with renting when you can just take your own car?
  - eclipxe 8y ago
    "basically a little worse (but still comparable)". No, not even close. I had an M5 with BMW's latest lane keeping assist. Tesla's Autopilot is exponentially better. Especially in the last two weeks with unattended highway lane changes. It is night and day different.
    - Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
      What does it mean practically? What do you mean by "exponentially"? VW, BMW, have lane assist. It means the vehicle will stay in the lane. Autopilot will also stay in the lane. Let's say on a 30 minute drive, autopilot will disengage 2 times, VW will disengage 6 times. Is this about right? I don't see an "exponential" difference here, care to explain? I have tried several vehicles that have this, but for short periods of time. The point is, none of the vehicles are truly automatic yet. I've seen videos of recent automatic lane changes too, there seems to be problems with proper speed and accurate changes, unless perfect road conditions...
      - eclipxe 8y ago
        I mean exponentially as in the experience is radically different. VW, BMW, etc will disengage multiple times during a trip by itself. Autopilot does not. 99% of my trips, I do not have to take over from autopilot. It just works. Sharp curves, stop and go traffic. The intelligence of the system - Tesla will look at cars in adjacent lanes, detect a blinker and slow the car to allow a merge. Tesla will look at cars approaching from an on-ramp merge and slow down to properly zipper merge. Tesla will detect a car in a blind spot during a lane change and automatically steer to avoid a collision. And yes the automatic lane changes are even further. They don't require perfect road conditions and there are no issues with proper speed or accurate changes. For me in SoCal traffic, the car will drive onramp to offramp, changing highways and avoiding slow traffic without me doing anything. This is what I mean by exponentially different. It is night and day.
leejo 8y ago
I do use the car outside the long trips. Looking at my mileage graph over the past 5 years[1] my usage is short trips in the winter/spring then much longer road trips in the summer/autumn. The spikes you see on it (2,000km plus) are generally single road trips. [1] https://imgur.com/a/35POl8r https://imgur.com/a/35POl8r
Svip 8y ago
I know I'm a tiny minority on this usage, but I own cars because I like cars; as in tinkering with them. My two cars are pre-2000, and I only drive them rarely. But when I do, I usually cover several hundred, if not thousands some times, kilometres before I put them away again. But I take the train or bike to work. While I am not on long trips with them, I instead tinker with them. However, buying a used car can often be a lot cheaper than buying cheap modern car + renting one for road trips, that will cover usages (daily and road trips) decently.

mrweasel 8y ago

I don't know about Switzerland, but renting a car is pretty expensive in some countries. So buying something like a Tesla, or another car, with high resale value may be the better deal, even if you only need it for a month or two a year.

bluedino 8y ago
In the USA you can get a Ford Fusion from $40-$50 a day with unlimited miles. And that's not including special prices or discounts
- mrweasel 8y ago
  I believe that in Denmark it's closer to $120 per day, 100km included for a small car (European small, not US small). It's financially viable to go to Germany and rent a car and drive from there, if you need to drive around in Europe.

Ma8ee 8y ago

Yes! This is something that I have wondered for a long time. Why do people buy a car that covers all possible usecases for all year around instead of buying one that is ideal for daily use and then rent a bigger car for the week or two when you need it? It would be better for the wallet and for the environment.

wil421 8y ago
I have a car payment, pay to maintain my car, and fees to drive it. Why would I buy a car knowing I would have to rent a car several times a year to go on vacation?
- mcv 8y ago
  Good point. Plenty of people choose to not own a car at all, and only rent when they need one.
- ryanhuff 8y ago
  One reason I do is to avoid the mileage I put on a vacation car. I could travel 1,500 miles across several states while on a vacation trip. That’s 1-2 months of normal driving that I instead put on rental car for about $150.
  - bluedino 8y ago
    1,5000 miles * 0.50 = $750 even subtracting gasoline (25mpg @ $3.00/gal) $180 you're still coming out like $500 ahead vs wear and tear on your car
    - qubitcoder 8y ago
      Plenty of rental car companies offer unlimited mileage (especially in the US, Avis in particular). I spent nearly a decade as a consultant traveling extensively throughout the US and Europe--and unlimited mileage rentals could be had for a reasonable and often surprisingly cheap price. I never understood why people opted to pay by the mile.
- 1123581321 8y ago
  Most people do not take several vacations a year that require long drives.
Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
Because there are many great cars that fit all those requirements and that are usually cheaper than a current Tesla, better equiped than a Tesla (autopilot being the single exception, even though BMW, Porsche, VW and many others already have lane assist which is basically a little worse (but still comparable) version of Tesla's autopilot). Why bother with renting when you can just take your own car?
- eclipxe 8y ago
  "basically a little worse (but still comparable)". No, not even close. I had an M5 with BMW's latest lane keeping assist. Tesla's Autopilot is exponentially better. Especially in the last two weeks with unattended highway lane changes. It is night and day different.
  - Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
    What does it mean practically? What do you mean by "exponentially"? VW, BMW, have lane assist. It means the vehicle will stay in the lane. Autopilot will also stay in the lane. Let's say on a 30 minute drive, autopilot will disengage 2 times, VW will disengage 6 times. Is this about right? I don't see an "exponential" difference here, care to explain? I have tried several vehicles that have this, but for short periods of time. The point is, none of the vehicles are truly automatic yet. I've seen videos of recent automatic lane changes too, there seems to be problems with proper speed and accurate changes, unless perfect road conditions...
    - eclipxe 8y ago
      I mean exponentially as in the experience is radically different. VW, BMW, etc will disengage multiple times during a trip by itself. Autopilot does not. 99% of my trips, I do not have to take over from autopilot. It just works. Sharp curves, stop and go traffic. The intelligence of the system - Tesla will look at cars in adjacent lanes, detect a blinker and slow the car to allow a merge. Tesla will look at cars approaching from an on-ramp merge and slow down to properly zipper merge. Tesla will detect a car in a blind spot during a lane change and automatically steer to avoid a collision. And yes the automatic lane changes are even further. They don't require perfect road conditions and there are no issues with proper speed or accurate changes. For me in SoCal traffic, the car will drive onramp to offramp, changing highways and avoiding slow traffic without me doing anything. This is what I mean by exponentially different. It is night and day.

leejo 8y ago

I do use the car outside the long trips. Looking at my mileage graph over the past 5 years[1] my usage is short trips in the winter/spring then much longer road trips in the summer/autumn. The spikes you see on it (2,000km plus) are generally single road trips. [1] https://imgur.com/a/35POl8r https://imgur.com/a/35POl8r

Svip 8y ago

I know I'm a tiny minority on this usage, but I own cars because I like cars; as in tinkering with them. My two cars are pre-2000, and I only drive them rarely. But when I do, I usually cover several hundred, if not thousands some times, kilometres before I put them away again. But I take the train or bike to work. While I am not on long trips with them, I instead tinker with them. However, buying a used car can often be a lot cheaper than buying cheap modern car + renting one for road trips, that will cover usages (daily and road trips) decently.