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I'd prefer a shorter name anyway, if I were Amazon, the company. Who wants to type https://amazon.amazon https://amazon.amazon over https://amazon.com https://a

by cronix 8y ago

I'd prefer a shorter name anyway, if I were Amazon, the company. Who wants to type https://amazon.amazon https://amazon.amazon over https://amazon.com https://amazon.com?

nerdponx 8y ago
Couldn't you type https://amazon https://amazon. or https://buy.amazon https://buy.amazon. ?
- jsgo 8y ago
  The latter yes, but the former would be like https://com https://com.
  - chrismeller 8y ago
    Poor equivalency since com is a traditional TLD that has no inherent meaning on its own (though arguably could at least serve the VeriSign NIC page).
    - vinay427 8y ago
      The "com" is from "commercial," which is maybe more distinct in contrast with other types of entities: "org" or "edu". Of course, that use has largely been diluted today, but it does have an inherent meaning.
    - deleted 8y ago
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    - jsgo 8y ago
      How is it a poor equivalency? https://amazon https://amazon is an attempt at just entering the tld without anything else and https://com https://com is entering the tld without anything else. Just because https://amazon.com https://amazon.com exists, doesn't mean "amazon" in and of itself means anything in the grand scheme of things.
      - chrismeller 8y ago
        And my point was that com alone would lead nowhere reasonable (aside from the Verisign NIC page), but Amazon by itself could very well lead to amazon's webpage. Just like entering http://localhost http://localhost or http://someotherlocalhostname http://someotherlocalhostname works, http://amazon http://amazon could as well (though with some caveats). No one has ever or would ever have any real reason to do that with com.
- davchana 8y ago
  Yes, like http://ai http://ai https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19624728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19624728
  - jsgo 8y ago
    Does this resolve to something? All I get is DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
CydeWeys 8y ago
They wouldn't use amazon.amazon obviously. Some options would include www.amazon, store.amazon, home.amazon, {product_category}.amazon, ec2.amazon, aws.amazon, etc. See how we're using .google for some examples (which fortunately is a completely made-up word, hence no contentions).
- microcolonel 8y ago
  Pretty sure they could also put a website right at https://amazon/ https://amazon/
  - slim 8y ago
    pretty sure it's against the DNS rules (too lazy to check the RFC)
    - gloflo 8y ago
      There are other, e.g. http://ai http://ai
      - Symbiote 8y ago
        http://ai./ http://ai./ is the canonical way to refer to this, and avoid the link directing to ai.example.com if such a host exists in the local network.
      - ryanlol 8y ago
        .ai is allowed to do this because .ai is a ccTLD administered by the government of Anguilla. .amazon is a gTLD covered by different rules, they are technically able to do this but it is explicitly forbidden (contractually).
      - CydeWeys 8y ago
        Wow, they're bragging about cryptography on that site but they're not even serving it securely.
      - 8y ago
koolba 8y ago
How about? https://shop.amazon https://shop.amazon Or as a platform? https://shopify.amazon https://shopify.amazon Or even more confusingly! https://walmart.amazon https://walmart.amazon

by cronix 8y ago

I'd prefer a shorter name anyway, if I were Amazon, the company. Who wants to type https://amazon.amazon https://amazon.amazon over https://amazon.com https://amazon.com?

nerdponx 8y ago

Couldn't you type https://amazon https://amazon. or https://buy.amazon https://buy.amazon. ?

jsgo 8y ago
The latter yes, but the former would be like https://com https://com.
- chrismeller 8y ago
  Poor equivalency since com is a traditional TLD that has no inherent meaning on its own (though arguably could at least serve the VeriSign NIC page).
  - vinay427 8y ago
    The "com" is from "commercial," which is maybe more distinct in contrast with other types of entities: "org" or "edu". Of course, that use has largely been diluted today, but it does have an inherent meaning.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
  - jsgo 8y ago
    How is it a poor equivalency? https://amazon https://amazon is an attempt at just entering the tld without anything else and https://com https://com is entering the tld without anything else. Just because https://amazon.com https://amazon.com exists, doesn't mean "amazon" in and of itself means anything in the grand scheme of things.
    - chrismeller 8y ago
      And my point was that com alone would lead nowhere reasonable (aside from the Verisign NIC page), but Amazon by itself could very well lead to amazon's webpage. Just like entering http://localhost http://localhost or http://someotherlocalhostname http://someotherlocalhostname works, http://amazon http://amazon could as well (though with some caveats). No one has ever or would ever have any real reason to do that with com.
davchana 8y ago
Yes, like http://ai http://ai https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19624728 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19624728
- jsgo 8y ago
  Does this resolve to something? All I get is DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

CydeWeys 8y ago

They wouldn't use amazon.amazon obviously. Some options would include www.amazon, store.amazon, home.amazon, {product_category}.amazon, ec2.amazon, aws.amazon, etc. See how we're using .google for some examples (which fortunately is a completely made-up word, hence no contentions).

microcolonel 8y ago
Pretty sure they could also put a website right at https://amazon/ https://amazon/
- slim 8y ago
  pretty sure it's against the DNS rules (too lazy to check the RFC)
  - gloflo 8y ago
    There are other, e.g. http://ai http://ai
    - Symbiote 8y ago
      http://ai./ http://ai./ is the canonical way to refer to this, and avoid the link directing to ai.example.com if such a host exists in the local network.
    - ryanlol 8y ago
      .ai is allowed to do this because .ai is a ccTLD administered by the government of Anguilla. .amazon is a gTLD covered by different rules, they are technically able to do this but it is explicitly forbidden (contractually).
    - CydeWeys 8y ago
      Wow, they're bragging about cryptography on that site but they're not even serving it securely.
    - 8y ago

koolba 8y ago

How about? https://shop.amazon https://shop.amazon Or as a platform? https://shopify.amazon https://shopify.amazon Or even more confusingly! https://walmart.amazon https://walmart.amazon