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I kinda agree, except that if McConnell says the bill is DOA, then it is. And this bill is relevant to HN because net neutrality is. Unsurprising news, though

I kinda agree, except that if McConnell says the bill is DOA, then it is. And this bill is relevant to HN because net neutrality is. Unsurprising news, though. Despite popular support, the GOP doesn't support it, and they control the Senate. Why would they pass this? (from their perspective)

jedberg 8y ago
Why would they pass it? Because the majority of Americans want it and they are supposed to represent us? Because it’s good for the country? Because they’re supposed to put country over party, not the other way around? There’s lots of reasons.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  This is cronyism, plain and simple. Get out and vote in the next election cycle for candidates who align with your interests. Run for office if you have the time, money, and most importantly, the fortitude. There's a PAC you can donate to if you would like to see Mitch voted out (google it, they've already raised +$500k). I won't link to it here in order to not be more political than this comment already has to be. This shouldn't be a politics issue (as jedberg mentions, a majority of Americans support NN [1]), but it has become one. Disclaimer: I have donated to the PAC I mention, but have no other affiliation. [1] https://thehill.com/policy/technology/364528-poll-83-percent-of-voters-support-keeping-fccs-net-neutrality-rules https://thehill.com/policy/technology/364528-poll-83-percent... (Poll: 83 percent of voters support keeping FCC's net neutrality rules) (My note: 83 percent!!!)
- threatofrain 8y ago
  Your representative represents you, among many. That's the vote you share. Representatives are supposed to put state or district above everything else.
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    EDIT: Parent edited their comment to no longer reflect who McConnell represents. "Only 33% of Kentucky voters approve of McConnell and an overwhelming 56% disapprove." [1] [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/431002-poll-33-of-kentucky-voters-approve-of-mcconnell https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/431002-poll-33-of-kent... (Poll: 33% of Kentucky voters approve of McConnell)
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- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  > Because the majority of Americans want it and they are supposed to represent us? Because it’s good for the country? I’m a Manhattan Democrat. We ran a state net neutrality bill. Nobody called. Nobody wrote in. This isn’t an issue voters care deeply about (yet). Net neutrality has popular support (I think). But nobody is there to organise the interest into an issue.
sadris 8y ago
If it included anti censorship aspects they could get some GOP support from Cruz.
- pfisch 8y ago
  If the speaker doesn't want it then it will never get to the floor of the Senate.
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    The Speaker has minimal influence on the Senate; I think you mean th Senate Majority Leader.
  - sadris 8y ago
    It could get to the floor via a discharge petition. But Democrats are currently pro censorship so that sort of language would never get into the bill.
kyrra 8y ago
As the article called out, they could have worked with the GOP to pass something that would get through the Senate and president. Rather the Democratic House decided to pass a DOA bill for posturing purposes. (the GOP regularly does this too). Maybe the media should stop reporting on the posturing of the parties.
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- kllrnohj 8y ago
  > Rather the Democratic House decided to pass a DOA bill for posturing purposes. Are you really going to try and twist this into being the Democrats' fault? The bill has popular support and simply returns to the rules that previously existed. It's not a drastic posturing bill. The GOP leadership could also just not be bought and paid for and do what's good for the country instead of their personal bank accounts.
  - kyrra 8y ago
    I'm blaming this on all most federal politicians. As I said, republicans do this same thing. The D's passed a bill without compromise, knowing it is dead in the upper chambers. It's also the fault of the GOP not looking to compromise. If either side was interested in actually passing something useful here, they would work together. The problem is that the federal house and senate have long been hard divided and stopped working together.
    - Dylan16807 8y ago
      Not everything needs to be a 'compromise'. Sometimes you can just judge a bill on its merits.
    - crooked-v 8y ago
      The Democrats are interested in passing something useful here, while the Republicans are interested in opposing everything the Democrats could possibly do because they're Democrats.

jedberg 8y ago

Why would they pass it? Because the majority of Americans want it and they are supposed to represent us? Because it’s good for the country? Because they’re supposed to put country over party, not the other way around? There’s lots of reasons.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
This is cronyism, plain and simple. Get out and vote in the next election cycle for candidates who align with your interests. Run for office if you have the time, money, and most importantly, the fortitude. There's a PAC you can donate to if you would like to see Mitch voted out (google it, they've already raised +$500k). I won't link to it here in order to not be more political than this comment already has to be. This shouldn't be a politics issue (as jedberg mentions, a majority of Americans support NN [1]), but it has become one. Disclaimer: I have donated to the PAC I mention, but have no other affiliation. [1] https://thehill.com/policy/technology/364528-poll-83-percent-of-voters-support-keeping-fccs-net-neutrality-rules https://thehill.com/policy/technology/364528-poll-83-percent... (Poll: 83 percent of voters support keeping FCC's net neutrality rules) (My note: 83 percent!!!)
threatofrain 8y ago
Your representative represents you, among many. That's the vote you share. Representatives are supposed to put state or district above everything else.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  EDIT: Parent edited their comment to no longer reflect who McConnell represents. "Only 33% of Kentucky voters approve of McConnell and an overwhelming 56% disapprove." [1] [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/431002-poll-33-of-kentucky-voters-approve-of-mcconnell https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/431002-poll-33-of-kent... (Poll: 33% of Kentucky voters approve of McConnell)
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JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> Because the majority of Americans want it and they are supposed to represent us? Because it’s good for the country? I’m a Manhattan Democrat. We ran a state net neutrality bill. Nobody called. Nobody wrote in. This isn’t an issue voters care deeply about (yet). Net neutrality has popular support (I think). But nobody is there to organise the interest into an issue.

sadris 8y ago

If it included anti censorship aspects they could get some GOP support from Cruz.

pfisch 8y ago
If the speaker doesn't want it then it will never get to the floor of the Senate.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  The Speaker has minimal influence on the Senate; I think you mean th Senate Majority Leader.
- sadris 8y ago
  It could get to the floor via a discharge petition. But Democrats are currently pro censorship so that sort of language would never get into the bill.

kyrra 8y ago

As the article called out, they could have worked with the GOP to pass something that would get through the Senate and president. Rather the Democratic House decided to pass a DOA bill for posturing purposes. (the GOP regularly does this too). Maybe the media should stop reporting on the posturing of the parties.

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kllrnohj 8y ago
> Rather the Democratic House decided to pass a DOA bill for posturing purposes. Are you really going to try and twist this into being the Democrats' fault? The bill has popular support and simply returns to the rules that previously existed. It's not a drastic posturing bill. The GOP leadership could also just not be bought and paid for and do what's good for the country instead of their personal bank accounts.
- kyrra 8y ago
  I'm blaming this on all most federal politicians. As I said, republicans do this same thing. The D's passed a bill without compromise, knowing it is dead in the upper chambers. It's also the fault of the GOP not looking to compromise. If either side was interested in actually passing something useful here, they would work together. The problem is that the federal house and senate have long been hard divided and stopped working together.
  - Dylan16807 8y ago
    Not everything needs to be a 'compromise'. Sometimes you can just judge a bill on its merits.
  - crooked-v 8y ago
    The Democrats are interested in passing something useful here, while the Republicans are interested in opposing everything the Democrats could possibly do because they're Democrats.