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Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

by aphextron 8y ago

millstone 8y ago
What is it about Fuschia that will improve the messaging situation?
shdh 8y ago
Its going to be an up hill battle for Fuchsia
nradov 8y ago
By the time Fuschia actually ships as a complete OS, perhaps the industry will have moved on to a new hardware form factor and smartphones will be considered a legacy product. Sort of like how Android was originally designed as an OS for compact cameras and then later pivoted to smartphones.
- aphextron 8y ago
  This is exactly why Fuchsia is a capabilities based OS, designed to run on any device. https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-and-capability-based-os/ https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-...
  - nradov 8y ago
    Historically attempts to create a modular, universal OS that runs on any hardware haven't ended well. Such projects tend to collapse under their own weight due to scope creep and the resulting software is usually too poorly optimized for any particular hardware to make a compelling product.
    - timbit42 8y ago
      Like Linux?
npunt 8y ago
That'd be a terrible strategy. Why not build a message app and then port it over to Fuchsia?
hendzen 8y ago
https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...
- aphextron 8y ago
  I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist. Besides the fact that Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial. Nothing is possible until it is.
  - earenndil 8y ago
    > I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist And why not? The mythical man-month is getting on 50 years old now and still relevant. > Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial That is fair. (And, as per a recent HN post, most should strive not to do what google does, since most don't have to crawl the entire web.)

Android has always been a stop-gap for Google. Fuchsia is going to be the first real competitor to iOS.

millstone 8y ago

What is it about Fuschia that will improve the messaging situation?

shdh 8y ago

Its going to be an up hill battle for Fuchsia

nradov 8y ago

By the time Fuschia actually ships as a complete OS, perhaps the industry will have moved on to a new hardware form factor and smartphones will be considered a legacy product. Sort of like how Android was originally designed as an OS for compact cameras and then later pivoted to smartphones.

aphextron 8y ago
This is exactly why Fuchsia is a capabilities based OS, designed to run on any device. https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-and-capability-based-os/ https://misterbugbuster.com/2018/04/19/fuchsia-os-a-modular-...
- nradov 8y ago
  Historically attempts to create a modular, universal OS that runs on any hardware haven't ended well. Such projects tend to collapse under their own weight due to scope creep and the resulting software is usually too poorly optimized for any particular hardware to make a compelling product.
  - timbit42 8y ago
    Like Linux?

npunt 8y ago

That'd be a terrible strategy. Why not build a message app and then port it over to Fuchsia?

hendzen 8y ago

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

aphextron 8y ago
I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist. Besides the fact that Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial. Nothing is possible until it is.
- earenndil 8y ago
  > I fail to see the relevance of comparing an opinion from 20 years ago to a product that didn’t even exist And why not? The mythical man-month is getting on 50 years old now and still relevant. > Google is literally 10x beyond any software company that existed in the 90s in terms of resources both human and financial That is fair. (And, as per a recent HN post, most should strive not to do what google does, since most don't have to crawl the entire web.)