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This doesn't replace the fact that I never wanted my headphone jack taken away in the first place. They broke a perfectly good thing in the name of $200 wireles

This doesn't replace the fact that I never wanted my headphone jack taken away in the first place. They broke a perfectly good thing in the name of $200 wireless earbuds.

ceejayoz 8y ago
They broke a perfectly good thing in the name of water intrusion, didn't they? IIRC Apple said the headphone jack was the single biggest source of damage. The first device to ditch the jack was Apple's first device to hit IP67 rating. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207043 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207043
- alexvoda 8y ago
  Plenty of other companies make or made IP68 waterproof phones with exposed headphone jacks. It's not an issue.
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    It's entirely possible that Apple doesn't like/trust the way their competitors approached waterproofing.
    - iainmerrick 8y ago
      Given all the many hardware problems Samsung has had -- exploding batteries!! -- if there was a flaw in their waterproofing don’t you think it would have been publicised by now? I haven’t heard any such reports. If doing it “the Sony way” would involve making the phone 1mm thicker, okay, I can easily believe Apple would decide they need to rip it up completely and do something different. Samsung and Sony phones aren’t exactly chunky, though. I would have been really happy with just a waterproof iPhone 6. Then maybe they could follow that up with an iPhone X with a headphone jack. Still do AirPods, just market them as a completely independent product.
    - amaccuish 8y ago
      iPhones still have charging ports and microphone holes. It's entirely possible to get ip68 with a headphone jack.
- freeone3000 8y ago
  Sure, but there are other IP67 devices, like the galaxy s5, the Sony xperia z, and so on that are ip67 rated and have a 3.5mm jack.
nomel 8y ago
I believed the idea that it was a space saving and water ingress issue until the latest iPad Pro also lost the jack.
- OrgNet 8y ago
  A "random person" did fit a 1/8 audio jack back inside the iphone without having to modify the case (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA). It's all about a money grab for Apple...
  - OrgNet 8y ago
    If someone has a different point of view, pleaase let me know
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  Even before that it seemed questionable. I think every Samsung flagship has had an equal or better water resistance rating than the corresponding iPhone.
larrik 8y ago
Not super obvious, but the "no one wants" in the title is referring to that explicitly.
drexlspivey 8y ago
You didn't want Flash taken away either but Apple started the transition to a flash-less internet which is now viewed as a good choice in retrospect. I tried the Airpods and I don't want to touch a wired headphone ever again.

This doesn't replace the fact that I never wanted my headphone jack taken away in the first place. They broke a perfectly good thing in the name of $200 wireless earbuds.

ceejayoz 8y ago

They broke a perfectly good thing in the name of water intrusion, didn't they? IIRC Apple said the headphone jack was the single biggest source of damage. The first device to ditch the jack was Apple's first device to hit IP67 rating. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207043 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207043

alexvoda 8y ago
Plenty of other companies make or made IP68 waterproof phones with exposed headphone jacks. It's not an issue.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  It's entirely possible that Apple doesn't like/trust the way their competitors approached waterproofing.
  - iainmerrick 8y ago
    Given all the many hardware problems Samsung has had -- exploding batteries!! -- if there was a flaw in their waterproofing don’t you think it would have been publicised by now? I haven’t heard any such reports. If doing it “the Sony way” would involve making the phone 1mm thicker, okay, I can easily believe Apple would decide they need to rip it up completely and do something different. Samsung and Sony phones aren’t exactly chunky, though. I would have been really happy with just a waterproof iPhone 6. Then maybe they could follow that up with an iPhone X with a headphone jack. Still do AirPods, just market them as a completely independent product.
  - amaccuish 8y ago
    iPhones still have charging ports and microphone holes. It's entirely possible to get ip68 with a headphone jack.
freeone3000 8y ago
Sure, but there are other IP67 devices, like the galaxy s5, the Sony xperia z, and so on that are ip67 rated and have a 3.5mm jack.

nomel 8y ago

I believed the idea that it was a space saving and water ingress issue until the latest iPad Pro also lost the jack.

OrgNet 8y ago
A "random person" did fit a 1/8 audio jack back inside the iphone without having to modify the case (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA). It's all about a money grab for Apple...
- OrgNet 8y ago
  If someone has a different point of view, pleaase let me know
Rebelgecko 8y ago
Even before that it seemed questionable. I think every Samsung flagship has had an equal or better water resistance rating than the corresponding iPhone.

larrik 8y ago

Not super obvious, but the "no one wants" in the title is referring to that explicitly.

drexlspivey 8y ago

You didn't want Flash taken away either but Apple started the transition to a flash-less internet which is now viewed as a good choice in retrospect. I tried the Airpods and I don't want to touch a wired headphone ever again.