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that doesn't sound like Apple is protecting my privacy like they claim . it sounds the exact opposite of protecting privacy

givinguflac 8y ago
Personally I disagree, from the perspective of an average user. While you and I are able to tell the difference between an adblocker and a nefarious vpn collecting all my data under the guise of adblocking. For the average user, they have absolutely no idea and don’t care, which is why disallowing vpn-based Adblock makes sense to me from an average user privacy standpoint.
- tokyodude 8y ago
  By that arguement Apple should disallow all Appa. Any app could be a scan.
angott 8y ago
Those ad-blocking local VPNs lead to terrible battery life. And nobody can know what they are doing behind the scenes. I agree with Apple blocking them. I just wish they had a public API for developers to offer apps that block the resolution of DNS names, just like they allow ad-blockers in Safari. They already have it, but it is restricted to supervised devices used inside organizations: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension/content_filter_providers https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension/c...
- ignoramous 8y ago
  Why would the local VPNs drain battery? Isn't VPN just an encrypted pipe through which traffic from your phone is routed? If some app or the other is not using the network, why would the VPN be even at work (hence draining the battery)? Or, are you suggesting that the local VPN apps are poorly implemented?
  - angott 8y ago
    Good question, and in fact your logic totally makes sense. But my personal experience differs. I used to use both AdGuard Pro and Weblock and they both used up to 10-15% of battery life (as indicated in the Settings app). I’m not sure why this was happening. One possible explanation is that the VPN binary running in the background prevents the phone from entering some battery saving configurations it normally enters when there is no network activity, perhaps. I don’t know how VPN clients are handled behind the scenes, so if someone could chime in that would be great.
    - ignoramous 8y ago
      Thanks. Yeah probably being run in the bg all the time might be the reason along with encryption CPU overhead. Some apps might have also been poorly implemented. https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/6c4n9h/vpn_on_mobile_device_draining_battery/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/6c4n9h/vpn_on_mobile_d...

givinguflac 8y ago

Personally I disagree, from the perspective of an average user. While you and I are able to tell the difference between an adblocker and a nefarious vpn collecting all my data under the guise of adblocking. For the average user, they have absolutely no idea and don’t care, which is why disallowing vpn-based Adblock makes sense to me from an average user privacy standpoint.

tokyodude 8y ago
By that arguement Apple should disallow all Appa. Any app could be a scan.

angott 8y ago

Those ad-blocking local VPNs lead to terrible battery life. And nobody can know what they are doing behind the scenes. I agree with Apple blocking them. I just wish they had a public API for developers to offer apps that block the resolution of DNS names, just like they allow ad-blockers in Safari. They already have it, but it is restricted to supervised devices used inside organizations: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension/content_filter_providers https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension/c...

ignoramous 8y ago
Why would the local VPNs drain battery? Isn't VPN just an encrypted pipe through which traffic from your phone is routed? If some app or the other is not using the network, why would the VPN be even at work (hence draining the battery)? Or, are you suggesting that the local VPN apps are poorly implemented?
- angott 8y ago
  Good question, and in fact your logic totally makes sense. But my personal experience differs. I used to use both AdGuard Pro and Weblock and they both used up to 10-15% of battery life (as indicated in the Settings app). I’m not sure why this was happening. One possible explanation is that the VPN binary running in the background prevents the phone from entering some battery saving configurations it normally enters when there is no network activity, perhaps. I don’t know how VPN clients are handled behind the scenes, so if someone could chime in that would be great.
  - ignoramous 8y ago
    Thanks. Yeah probably being run in the bg all the time might be the reason along with encryption CPU overhead. Some apps might have also been poorly implemented. https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/6c4n9h/vpn_on_mobile_device_draining_battery/ https://www.reddit.com/r/VPN/comments/6c4n9h/vpn_on_mobile_d...