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How is pen testing of iPhones stealing Apple's secrets? Does Apple know these holes are there and they're keeping them secret? I'll grant you that if the CIA b
by CalChris 8y ago
How is pen testing of iPhones stealing Apple's secrets? Does Apple know these holes are there and they're keeping them secret?
I'll grant you that if the CIA broke into Apple and stole keys, that would stealing along with breaking and entering or the cybercrime equivalent. But that's not what the article says.
- mlindner 8y agoYeah this article is a bit ridiculous. Pen testing is what security researchers do. It's a proverbial mountain out of a molehill. The Intercept longs for its Snowden glory days.
- ixtli 8y agoNot to nitpick but this is from 2015, which was right around the time when journalists were able to dig into how companies like microsoft and apple worked with the CIA/NSA to violate privacy, happily or otherwise.
- joezydeco 8y agoWhat about moles? Could the CIA hire someone, or many people, to attempt to get hired by Apple and spend years working their way into the higher echelons of the company?
- CalChris 8y agoThey could do that but that wasn't what the article was about.
- DINKDINK 8y ago>How is pen testing of iPhones stealing Apple's secrets? Did you read the article? The CIA -- in addition to pentesting -- is trying to exfiltrate GID keys of Apple devices. That is quite literally, trying to steal Apple's secrets -- not checking which systems have vulnerabilities.
- CalChris 8y agoThank you, I did read the article. No, that's pen testing.
- DINKDINK 8y agoI guess we disagree then. Pen testing to me is: "Can I steal your key? Here, I have a proof that I can steal it." Actually exfiltrating (not necessary to produce a proof that you were able to view it) so that you can produce fraudulent signatures is completely orthogonal to exfiltration.