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Do Jews not eat beef? I thought it was mainly pork?

shaggyfrog 8y ago
The prohibition is against meat and dairy simultaneously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law
- gotocake 8y ago
  Speaking as a Jew, while this is accurate, it’s not that common in the US among non-orthodox families. There was a poll of American Jews a while ago that found less than a quarter keep kosher.
- jonny_eh 8y ago
  And finding kosher beef. If you want a kosher burger, you usually need to buy the beef yourself and make your own burger.
  - markdown 8y ago
    Is it really that hard to find kosher beef in US restaurants? What about halal beef?
    - bobthepanda 8y ago
      All the beef has to be kosher. Not only that, but the kosher requirements (no dairy and meat together), depending on how kosher you are, also to apply to the plates the meal is served on, the equipment the meal is cooked on, and food storage areas; you need strictly segregated facilities, and washing between uses does not make it kosher. The requirements are strict to the point where rabbis have to regularly certify kosher restaurants as kosher.
      - markdown 8y ago
        I see. Thanks for the insight.
- xienze 8y ago
  That reminds me of the time I was in Jerusalem on Saturday (the Sabbath, so like everything was closed) and I stumbled upon a restaurant that reveled in being as un-kosher as possible: the main menu item was cheeseburgers and of course they were open on Saturdays. There were probably other things they did that rubbed people the wrong way because apparently the restaurant had been firebombed at one point.
- empath75 8y ago
  Calling American cheese ‘dairy’ is a little generous.
  - badfrog 8y ago
    Why would you say that? The legal minimum is 51% cheese. https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/what-exactly-american-cheese https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/what-exactly-american-chees...
splonk 8y ago
I would assume this refers to the prohibition on eating meat with dairy.
Wistar 8y ago
They do not eat beef and dairy together. At least she does not. It doesn't matter if the dairy is kosher or not, the two are not mixed.
- veryworried 8y ago
  This religious rule comes from a well known scientific observation: meat blocks calcium absorption.
  - knicholes 8y ago
    You mean calcium blocks iron absorption. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1600930 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1600930
    - veryworried 8y ago
      Yes.
  - MichaelApproved 8y ago
    > well known scientific observation Is it though? I tried to find a source for your claim but came up with inconclusive studies, at best. Do you have any sources for this or is it just a well known myth?
  - jjeaff 8y ago
    Well, any overlap with that scientific observation is, I'm sure, a happy accident.
  - delfinom 8y ago
    No. That's an extrapolation protein blocking calcium absorption. But unless you eat fake American dairy products like yogurt or "American cheese", there tends to be protein in that cheese. Incidentally, oxalic acid found in spinach also blocks calcium. Also beans and such have similar effect.
    - 8y ago
dougmwne 8y ago
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The prohibition is against meat and dairy simultaneously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law

gotocake 8y ago
Speaking as a Jew, while this is accurate, it’s not that common in the US among non-orthodox families. There was a poll of American Jews a while ago that found less than a quarter keep kosher.
jonny_eh 8y ago
And finding kosher beef. If you want a kosher burger, you usually need to buy the beef yourself and make your own burger.
- markdown 8y ago
  Is it really that hard to find kosher beef in US restaurants? What about halal beef?
  - bobthepanda 8y ago
    All the beef has to be kosher. Not only that, but the kosher requirements (no dairy and meat together), depending on how kosher you are, also to apply to the plates the meal is served on, the equipment the meal is cooked on, and food storage areas; you need strictly segregated facilities, and washing between uses does not make it kosher. The requirements are strict to the point where rabbis have to regularly certify kosher restaurants as kosher.
    - markdown 8y ago
      I see. Thanks for the insight.
xienze 8y ago
That reminds me of the time I was in Jerusalem on Saturday (the Sabbath, so like everything was closed) and I stumbled upon a restaurant that reveled in being as un-kosher as possible: the main menu item was cheeseburgers and of course they were open on Saturdays. There were probably other things they did that rubbed people the wrong way because apparently the restaurant had been firebombed at one point.
empath75 8y ago
Calling American cheese ‘dairy’ is a little generous.
- badfrog 8y ago
  Why would you say that? The legal minimum is 51% cheese. https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/what-exactly-american-cheese https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/what-exactly-american-chees...

splonk 8y ago

I would assume this refers to the prohibition on eating meat with dairy.

Wistar 8y ago

They do not eat beef and dairy together. At least she does not. It doesn't matter if the dairy is kosher or not, the two are not mixed.

veryworried 8y ago
This religious rule comes from a well known scientific observation: meat blocks calcium absorption.
- knicholes 8y ago
  You mean calcium blocks iron absorption. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1600930 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1600930
  - veryworried 8y ago
    Yes.
- MichaelApproved 8y ago
  > well known scientific observation Is it though? I tried to find a source for your claim but came up with inconclusive studies, at best. Do you have any sources for this or is it just a well known myth?
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Well, any overlap with that scientific observation is, I'm sure, a happy accident.
- delfinom 8y ago
  No. That's an extrapolation protein blocking calcium absorption. But unless you eat fake American dairy products like yogurt or "American cheese", there tends to be protein in that cheese. Incidentally, oxalic acid found in spinach also blocks calcium. Also beans and such have similar effect.
  - 8y ago

dougmwne 8y ago

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