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I like the analogy of the internet. In order to have the internet, we have packet switching, retransmissions, flow control with exponential backoff, distributed
by KKKKkkkk1 8y ago
I like the analogy of the internet. In order to have the internet, we have packet switching, retransmissions, flow control with exponential backoff, distributed spanning tree algorithms, etc. If we accept what the AI proponents say, the internet is a jumbled mess of conflicting hand-crafted rules that has no chance of ever working. And yet here we are on the internet, and we don't even need a Go or chess solver running in each router.
- adontz 8y agoAnd sometimes networks go down, but nobody dies.
- rhacker 8y agoThat is what my retort was going to be. The stakes are a lot higher when it's a human at 65 mph.
- nisse72 8y agoAnd packet collisions are not unusual. But then you simply wait a short time, and try again.
- zimpenfish 8y ago10 Drive forwards a bit 20 Stop 30 Did we hit something? 35 YES: Sleep for a short time 40 GOTO 10
- phzn 8y agoReminds me of the development of Diablo. Once that sleep time became small enough the game took off.
- nradov 8y agoYou're making a strawman argument and I have no idea which AI proponents you're referring to. Internet routers mostly rely on deterministic non-conflicting rules with little or no AI involved. It generally works fine, although there are multiple major failures every year. How much large scale network engineering have you done?
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- carlmr 8y ago>Internet routers mostly rely on deterministic non-conflicting rules Exponential backoff (which the previous poster mentioned) is randomized and success is by definition non-deterministic algorithm to resolve conflicting usage. It works very well, and is very simple. But deterministic and non-conflicting are really not qualities that the IP protocol is known for.