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People could also be tricked by specifically designed stickers as well. This organization designed a sticker that is designed to scare people into stopping the

by Emendo 8y ago

People could also be tricked by specifically designed stickers as well. This organization designed a sticker that is designed to scare people into stopping their car. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/09/3d-illusion-in-street-tries-to-change-drivers-attitudes/ http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/09/3d-illusion-in-street-t... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r26AwT7PTM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r26AwT7PTM While people would get angry at being tricked and would put pressure on the city to remove the adversarial sticker, self-driving cars not have the sympathy of the public.

baby 8y ago
This is awesome! Where can we purchase such stickers?
- 1123581321 8y ago
  Please don’t do anything to desensitize drivers to the appearance of children in the road.
  - megy 8y ago
    I know, only a million people are killed on the road every year. Imagine if drivers were desensitized!!
    - pavel_lishin 8y ago
      "This tire fire has been burning for twenty years, there's no reason not to throw this can of gasoline into it."
    - 1123581321 8y ago
      About 300 non-occupant (i.e., in the street or on the walk) children a year die from car crashes each year in the US. About a third of those are in school zones. This means two things: one, a solution to force slower driving in school zones would not prevent the majority of fatalities, so if that solution was counterproductive outside of school zones, it would reasonably increase fatalities. Two, 300, or 100 in a school zone, suggests the vast majority of car-child interactions are not fatal or even injurious. A solution that prevented a couple of the existing fatalities could easily turn more of the much larger number of safe encounters into dangerous encounters. And this is plausible because right now, people are watchful and quick to slam on the brakes when they see a child, even out of the corner of their eye. Teaching them that an area where children walk has a “child” they can ignore would weaken that reflex where it should actually be strengthened. I understand you are concerned about children as well, so I would advise looking into policies regarding parking on the side of the road. Roundabouts in neighborhood intersections near schools also have demonstrated a natural slowing effect that does not seem to have negative externalities beyond the cost to implement the roundabout.
layoutIfNeeded 8y ago
Looks like a great way to train drivers to override their instincts and keep going thinking "it's just that stupid sticker again", even if it's a real kid standing there.
LeoPanthera 8y ago
Some drivers are going to panic and stand on their brakes, possibly causing a collision. Other drivers will become desensitised to the image, learn to ignore it, and possibly then ignore a real child in the future. It's hard to express how shockingly bad this idea is.
- kruczek 8y ago
  I'd recommend reading the article. Before the image itself, there is "a School Zone sign, crosswalk, an extended curb and a sign by Preventable that reads: You’re probably not expecting kids to run out on the road". It's hard to imagine that anyone would be going fast enough to cause any damage. Furthermore the image was there only for a week. I somehow doubt drivers would suddenly start to ignore children, after they saw fake image of a child five times.

by Emendo 8y ago

baby 8y ago

This is awesome! Where can we purchase such stickers?

1123581321 8y ago
Please don’t do anything to desensitize drivers to the appearance of children in the road.
- megy 8y ago
  I know, only a million people are killed on the road every year. Imagine if drivers were desensitized!!
  - pavel_lishin 8y ago
    "This tire fire has been burning for twenty years, there's no reason not to throw this can of gasoline into it."
  - 1123581321 8y ago
    About 300 non-occupant (i.e., in the street or on the walk) children a year die from car crashes each year in the US. About a third of those are in school zones. This means two things: one, a solution to force slower driving in school zones would not prevent the majority of fatalities, so if that solution was counterproductive outside of school zones, it would reasonably increase fatalities. Two, 300, or 100 in a school zone, suggests the vast majority of car-child interactions are not fatal or even injurious. A solution that prevented a couple of the existing fatalities could easily turn more of the much larger number of safe encounters into dangerous encounters. And this is plausible because right now, people are watchful and quick to slam on the brakes when they see a child, even out of the corner of their eye. Teaching them that an area where children walk has a “child” they can ignore would weaken that reflex where it should actually be strengthened. I understand you are concerned about children as well, so I would advise looking into policies regarding parking on the side of the road. Roundabouts in neighborhood intersections near schools also have demonstrated a natural slowing effect that does not seem to have negative externalities beyond the cost to implement the roundabout.

layoutIfNeeded 8y ago

Looks like a great way to train drivers to override their instincts and keep going thinking "it's just that stupid sticker again", even if it's a real kid standing there.

LeoPanthera 8y ago

Some drivers are going to panic and stand on their brakes, possibly causing a collision. Other drivers will become desensitised to the image, learn to ignore it, and possibly then ignore a real child in the future. It's hard to express how shockingly bad this idea is.

kruczek 8y ago
I'd recommend reading the article. Before the image itself, there is "a School Zone sign, crosswalk, an extended curb and a sign by Preventable that reads: You’re probably not expecting kids to run out on the road". It's hard to imagine that anyone would be going fast enough to cause any damage. Furthermore the image was there only for a week. I somehow doubt drivers would suddenly start to ignore children, after they saw fake image of a child five times.