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> how much effort people spend on learning IDE menus I thought the point of a menu was you didn't have to learn much at all.
by Redoubts 8y ago
> how much effort people spend on learning IDE menus
I thought the point of a menu was you didn't have to learn much at all.
- darkpuma 8y agoThat's not how it actually works though. You've got what, half a dozen or more top level menus, with many submenus under those, and maybe even a third layer beneath that. And then you've got even more menus in the various subwindows anything in one of those menus might launch. Menus which again may have submenus. And the worst part is you can't even run a text search on those menus!
- winrid 8y agoI just use keyboard shortcuts...
- brandonmenc 8y ago> And the worst part is you can't even run a text search on those menus! sigh https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2009/06/find-action-saves-time/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2009/06/find-action-saves-ti...
- Osiris 8y agoI used that all the time. I rarely dig through menus. I hit Ctrl+shift+a and type in part of a command name. It makes discoverability really easy.
- darkpuma 8y agoThat seems like a decent alternative to menus, motivated by exactly the fault with menus I was describing: "Instead of wasting your time searching the menus and toolbars in an attempt find out that action you need right now [...]" That feature doesn't make menus better. It makes the IDE better, by giving you a way to avoid the menus, because [sigh] menus suck.
- brandonmenc 8y agoemacs has menus too, you know.
- chongli 8y agoIsn't this effectively a more limited reimplementation of a shell?
- meowface 8y agoVS Code greatly simplifies the typical nested menu mess. Also, it has a pretty good vim mode.