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It's a bit worse than it seems, because lunch breaks are not included, so whereas an American would call his 9-to-5 job a 40 hour work week, it would be equival

It's a bit worse than it seems, because lunch breaks are not included, so whereas an American would call his 9-to-5 job a 40 hour work week, it would be equivalent to a 35 hour Brazilian work week. A Brazilian work day is usually 8h30 to 18h18 so that 44h will fit into 5 days. You can see how adding a commute of at least and hour (could easily be 2h or 3h in São Paulo or Rio) will simply eat up your whole day. I think a reduction of the 44h week is long due in Brazil and I don't understand why there isn't more pressure from workers. They probably don't have the time to protest.

TheCoreh 8y ago
> I think a reduction of the 44h week is long due in Brazil and I don't understand why there isn't more pressure from workers. I found the expectations around what you're supposed to do during work hours to be very different between Brazil and US. Extreme conditions obviously exist, (e.g. telemarketers, which are usually _continuously_ taking calls) but from my observation a significant portion of those 44 hours is spent idling or socializing. I think proposing any change in work hours under the current political and socioeconomic climate (12% unemployment) wouldn't be feasible, and without the needed shift in work culture our productivity would probably fall further behind.
Jcampuzano2 8y ago
I don't know, I think 9 to 6 has been becoming more of the norm here as well. All the places I have worked so far (maybe I've been unlucky) have expected more of a 9 to 6 (give or take an hour shift in either direction) than a 9 to 5 cadence. Also, I don't know many people who work a strict 9 to 5 in office jobs, many take work home with them or are expected to always be available even on weekends should something come up. Not saying this is good, but I don't think strict 9-5 is the norm anymore.
NullPrefix 8y ago
>8h30 to 18h18 Can you explain this notation?
- quietbritishjim 8y ago
  It seems fairly self-explanatory to me, but the second result of a Google search for "time h notation" gave me this (the first was documentation for the time.h header): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_France https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Fr...

TheCoreh 8y ago

> I think a reduction of the 44h week is long due in Brazil and I don't understand why there isn't more pressure from workers. I found the expectations around what you're supposed to do during work hours to be very different between Brazil and US. Extreme conditions obviously exist, (e.g. telemarketers, which are usually _continuously_ taking calls) but from my observation a significant portion of those 44 hours is spent idling or socializing. I think proposing any change in work hours under the current political and socioeconomic climate (12% unemployment) wouldn't be feasible, and without the needed shift in work culture our productivity would probably fall further behind.

Jcampuzano2 8y ago

I don't know, I think 9 to 6 has been becoming more of the norm here as well. All the places I have worked so far (maybe I've been unlucky) have expected more of a 9 to 6 (give or take an hour shift in either direction) than a 9 to 5 cadence. Also, I don't know many people who work a strict 9 to 5 in office jobs, many take work home with them or are expected to always be available even on weekends should something come up. Not saying this is good, but I don't think strict 9-5 is the norm anymore.

NullPrefix 8y ago

>8h30 to 18h18 Can you explain this notation?

quietbritishjim 8y ago
It seems fairly self-explanatory to me, but the second result of a Google search for "time h notation" gave me this (the first was documentation for the time.h header): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_France https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Fr...