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I'm a big fan of both Go and Rust, and it's really interesting to see Rust ranked #3 in preference but #17 in expertise. Rust is not a simple language by any m

I'm a big fan of both Go and Rust, and it's really interesting to see Rust ranked #3 in preference but #17 in expertise. Rust is not a simple language by any means -- it's a great replacement for C++, but I'd be pretty surprised if it displaced the popular general purpose languages (which Go has actually managed to do.)

pjmlp 8y ago
Go has not displaced anything around here. Still plain old Java, .NET and C++ as always.
- deleted 8y ago
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- Intermernet 8y ago
  I agree with you, but I still think you're going to see Go, Rust and friends eating away at that code base. FYI I'm language agnostic, but I'd like to see c++ eventually replaced. .NET is currently looking good, and I'm ambivalent on Java, but I think there are valid reasons to be looking at go right now,if not rust. They both seem to be tuned to modern hardware design despite the hype.
- Thaxll 8y ago
  Depends where you work, but if it's related to Kubernetes, service mesh ect ... Go is pretty popular nowdays.
  - dharmab 8y ago
    That's largely because it's the easiest way to deal with Custom Resource Definitions within Kubernetes, and because many of the tools that make writing a Controller or Operator easy are only exposed as internal APIs.
    - Thaxll 8y ago
      It's also because a k8s daemonset or sidecar takes 5 to 10x less memory to run using Go. No one wants to run small pods with JVM and xms / xmx settings to 512MB.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        When not doing AOT compilation, yes that can happen.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Not everyone is on the K8s, Docker hype. They are today's NoSQL.
    - ilovecaching 8y ago
      You mean Google of a decade ago. Borg is old and containerization is ancient. I'm guessing your job relies on people sticking with Java SQL stacks.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        My job relies on people that don't have ghost dreams about their business being web scale.
- vardump 8y ago
  Where I'm located, .NET has died years ago. Just Java, Go and C++ now. I guess these things are regional. Unity is increasing C# popularity, though. So maybe .NET is not going away, at least yet.
  - apta 8y ago
    Lots of work is being done on .NET, not just Unity. Also, it's the second most popular server side web language: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_langua...
  - raxxorrax 8y ago
    Same here... .net core is around but the APIs and runtimes MS created aren't really loved by anyone. With WPF seemingly abandoned and UWP being ... itself, there isn't much enthusiasm left. A little sad, since I believe C# to be superior to JAVA, but I haven't used it for anything for about two years now. It maybe won't go away, but I think it lost a lot of relevance.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      WPF is one of the corner stones of .NET Core 3.0, and one of the UI frameworks mostly used in life sciences device management UIs. UWP isn't going anywhere, as much as haters would like to.
      - raxxorrax 8y ago
        Maybe not. But users might go somewhere else. I have yet to meet anyone in real life that developed anything with UWP because it allegedly (has been a while) still lacks very basic features relating to UI at least (i know it is not restricted to that). I have nothing against WPF, although I am not a fan of XAML. But I think MS isn't really focusing on it. We will see. I used WPF in medical applications like you said, but that was around 4-5 years ago. Currently I believe UWP will never significantly take off on the desktop outside of Microsoft.
Scarbutt 8y ago
Yep, Go displaced Python,JS,PHP,Ruby,Java /s

pjmlp 8y ago

Go has not displaced anything around here. Still plain old Java, .NET and C++ as always.

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Intermernet 8y ago
I agree with you, but I still think you're going to see Go, Rust and friends eating away at that code base. FYI I'm language agnostic, but I'd like to see c++ eventually replaced. .NET is currently looking good, and I'm ambivalent on Java, but I think there are valid reasons to be looking at go right now,if not rust. They both seem to be tuned to modern hardware design despite the hype.
Thaxll 8y ago
Depends where you work, but if it's related to Kubernetes, service mesh ect ... Go is pretty popular nowdays.
- dharmab 8y ago
  That's largely because it's the easiest way to deal with Custom Resource Definitions within Kubernetes, and because many of the tools that make writing a Controller or Operator easy are only exposed as internal APIs.
  - Thaxll 8y ago
    It's also because a k8s daemonset or sidecar takes 5 to 10x less memory to run using Go. No one wants to run small pods with JVM and xms / xmx settings to 512MB.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      When not doing AOT compilation, yes that can happen.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Not everyone is on the K8s, Docker hype. They are today's NoSQL.
  - ilovecaching 8y ago
    You mean Google of a decade ago. Borg is old and containerization is ancient. I'm guessing your job relies on people sticking with Java SQL stacks.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      My job relies on people that don't have ghost dreams about their business being web scale.
vardump 8y ago
Where I'm located, .NET has died years ago. Just Java, Go and C++ now. I guess these things are regional. Unity is increasing C# popularity, though. So maybe .NET is not going away, at least yet.
- apta 8y ago
  Lots of work is being done on .NET, not just Unity. Also, it's the second most popular server side web language: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_langua...
- raxxorrax 8y ago
  Same here... .net core is around but the APIs and runtimes MS created aren't really loved by anyone. With WPF seemingly abandoned and UWP being ... itself, there isn't much enthusiasm left. A little sad, since I believe C# to be superior to JAVA, but I haven't used it for anything for about two years now. It maybe won't go away, but I think it lost a lot of relevance.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    WPF is one of the corner stones of .NET Core 3.0, and one of the UI frameworks mostly used in life sciences device management UIs. UWP isn't going anywhere, as much as haters would like to.
    - raxxorrax 8y ago
      Maybe not. But users might go somewhere else. I have yet to meet anyone in real life that developed anything with UWP because it allegedly (has been a while) still lacks very basic features relating to UI at least (i know it is not restricted to that). I have nothing against WPF, although I am not a fan of XAML. But I think MS isn't really focusing on it. We will see. I used WPF in medical applications like you said, but that was around 4-5 years ago. Currently I believe UWP will never significantly take off on the desktop outside of Microsoft.

Scarbutt 8y ago

Yep, Go displaced Python,JS,PHP,Ruby,Java /s