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That is just not true. I bought one and I have a thin laptop which runs OS X and has 32gb of RAM, 1TB SSD and 6 Core i9. Mostly use it for music production and

That is just not true. I bought one and I have a thin laptop which runs OS X and has 32gb of RAM, 1TB SSD and 6 Core i9. Mostly use it for music production and it's genuinely incredible. I can work wherever I am, with a full complement of sample libraries, and never worry about computaion resources. It's a wonder machine.

EvagohP5 8y ago
" I can work wherever I am, with a full complement of sample libraries, and never worry about computaion resources." so this testifies your position on newest macbooks not being shit how?
simonh 8y ago
I don't think anyone is seriously complaining about the performance, but the user experience seems to vary a lot. Some people love the feel of new keyboards, others hate them; some have no mechanical problems with them, for others they're unusable broken[0]; some like the touch bar, others feel lobotomised without a physical Escape key. I think the feel thing is arguable and the touchbar is a matter of taste. Apple has to look at the market as a whole to see what works for the whole customer base, and the fact is a lot of people who don't post on HN hate function keys because they can never remember which does what. The mechanical issues are really not acceptable though. It just affects too many machines too consistently. Even if yours is fine now, it could have an issue at any moment. They need to bite a Mac Pro sized bullet and fix this properly. [0]https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-macbook-keyboard-problem/ https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-mac...
- arebours 8y ago
  > I don't think anyone is seriously complaining about the performance [...] Well, I do. It's not even that it's pretty pricey for what's inside. The lone fact that you can't get a macOS laptop with a better CPU or battery life than what it's offered with a maxed out MacBook Pro is a joke.
  - simonh 8y ago
    Those 6-core 8th gen Core i9s just not scratching your itch then.
    - arebours 8y ago
      Ah, it seems you're right. I've never considered buying 15-inch laptop and I think this is where I got this misconception from.
lasagnaphil 8y ago
The only thing I envy about Mac users is: they have really good apps for creative production. (If only I can run Logic Pro X on my PC...)
eden_hazard 8y ago
I use the base model 15" 2018 MBP. I love the keyboard and so far the keys are fine but sometimes it lags for no reason. Doesn't really hinder me but it does happen every now and then. Seems to happen more when I'm connected to external monitors.

EvagohP5 8y ago

" I can work wherever I am, with a full complement of sample libraries, and never worry about computaion resources." so this testifies your position on newest macbooks not being shit how?

simonh 8y ago

I don't think anyone is seriously complaining about the performance, but the user experience seems to vary a lot. Some people love the feel of new keyboards, others hate them; some have no mechanical problems with them, for others they're unusable broken[0]; some like the touch bar, others feel lobotomised without a physical Escape key. I think the feel thing is arguable and the touchbar is a matter of taste. Apple has to look at the market as a whole to see what works for the whole customer base, and the fact is a lot of people who don't post on HN hate function keys because they can never remember which does what. The mechanical issues are really not acceptable though. It just affects too many machines too consistently. Even if yours is fine now, it could have an issue at any moment. They need to bite a Mac Pro sized bullet and fix this properly. [0]https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-macbook-keyboard-problem/ https://www.wsj.com/graphics/apple-still-hasnt-fixed-its-mac...

arebours 8y ago
> I don't think anyone is seriously complaining about the performance [...] Well, I do. It's not even that it's pretty pricey for what's inside. The lone fact that you can't get a macOS laptop with a better CPU or battery life than what it's offered with a maxed out MacBook Pro is a joke.
- simonh 8y ago
  Those 6-core 8th gen Core i9s just not scratching your itch then.
  - arebours 8y ago
    Ah, it seems you're right. I've never considered buying 15-inch laptop and I think this is where I got this misconception from.

lasagnaphil 8y ago

The only thing I envy about Mac users is: they have really good apps for creative production. (If only I can run Logic Pro X on my PC...)

eden_hazard 8y ago

I use the base model 15" 2018 MBP. I love the keyboard and so far the keys are fine but sometimes it lags for no reason. Doesn't really hinder me but it does happen every now and then. Seems to happen more when I'm connected to external monitors.