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Waking up early and getting things done is a matter of self discipline. I had trouble with all of those things until I started going to bed early with my son an

by 2III7 8y ago

Waking up early and getting things done is a matter of self discipline. I had trouble with all of those things until I started going to bed early with my son and wife. Before that I stayed up late and was tremendously tired all the time. Now I wake up at 6 AM without an alarm and just automagically get shit done and have left over time for my side projects, fixing the house etc.

jmh530 8y ago
I woke up yesterday without an alarm at 5:40am and was like, damn I overslept.
- HNLurker2 8y ago
  Waking up early can be a sign of depression too (3 am)
ajuc 8y ago
For me the solution was to install software that dims and shifts the screen colors to red with time. It makes me sleepy at around 22:00, so I just go to bed, and wake up naturally at about 6:30. Before that I often stayed late and realized when it was already 1:00.
coldtea 8y ago
>Waking up early and getting things done is a matter of self discipline. Anything a person can do is a matter of self-discipline. I could not have slept for 36 days because of working 2-shifts and still "have the discipline" to go for a run. Slim chances, but it happens. But self-discipline is much easier to muster in "easy mode", when your other duties are taken care of by an army of servants. Talk of self-discipline without talk of environmental factors making people less tired, less stressed, and less concerned with basic life matters to focus on that discipline is moot. And talk of self-discipline should take into account aggregates, to discover what's the baseline for most people under certain conditions, not point at some outliers that did it against all odds and say "Here, anyone can do it" (as if difficulty doesn't matter). That's like pointing out Usain Bolt and saying "here, anyone can run sub-10 secs and if you don't you just lack the discipline". Do you think e.g. a-list actors who trivially lose amazing amounts of weight for roles have "more discipline" that the average folks who statistically fail much worse in their diets? Or that they have personal chefs, trainers, massagers, cleaners, and so on, plus a 5-10 million dollar incentive (to get the next "action" part), siding with their "self-discipline).
- 2III7 8y ago
  > But self-discipline is much easier to muster in "easy mode", when your other duties are taken care of by an army of servants. Self discipline is also easier when you actually work on your self discipline, plan your day, have a schedule, stay off your phone and computer when not working and so on. There are countless ways you can make your life easier and stress free. Losing weight is a matter of eating healthy foods, using the stairs instead of elevators, taking walks during lunchtime, don't eat/drink sugar rich foods and drinks. Losing weight is obviously difficult when one has a medical condition that prevents losing weight, but when you don't it is a matter of self discipline to lose weight. Also taking daily vitamin D supplements makes a huge positive impact on ones mental and physical health.
  - Djvacto 8y ago
    Nothing you are saying is explicitly wrong. Yeah life is easier when you have self discipline. But you're presenting what you're saying as a counter to what the other person is saying, which is that having all of those extra environmental factors (personal chef, housekeeping, etc) make it way easier. What you're saying is self discipline for the common folk is easier when they work on it vs if they don't. That doesn't negate that while them working/focusing on self discipline is easier by, say, a factor of 25% (numbers are just for explanation purposes), having to not worry about doing the dishes, planning your meals, etc makes it easier by 85 or 90%. Everything is a matter of self discipline, sure, but that's one factor out of a billion. You seem to be arguing that losing weight or getting your life together can be as easy as it is for the rich and powerful if you want it bad enough and take some vitamin D. That makes it easier, but not as easy as it is for, say, Jeff Bezos to exercise every day.
    - matwood 8y ago
      In some ways it's easier to exercise self-discipline when someone is super rich, but in others it is harder. For example, look at all of the rich and powerful with drug and alcohol problems. When someone has almost everything it is easy to become lazy and/or abuse substances. Is it easier for Bezos to get out of bed 20 minutes earlier and do 100 burpees than it is for you or I? IMO, it's not that different.
Amygaz 8y ago
I wake up at 6. Then I do breakfast, lunches, shower, walk the kiddo and backpack out the door, take the train, go to work. According to some website, my income puts me in the top 15%. So middle-high maybe... I apply stoicism to my life. It’s a work in progress, and will always be. Nobody becomes a stoic, that’s not a thing. And the authors clearly doesn’t know the difference.

by 2III7 8y ago

jmh530 8y ago

I woke up yesterday without an alarm at 5:40am and was like, damn I overslept.

HNLurker2 8y ago
Waking up early can be a sign of depression too (3 am)

ajuc 8y ago

For me the solution was to install software that dims and shifts the screen colors to red with time. It makes me sleepy at around 22:00, so I just go to bed, and wake up naturally at about 6:30. Before that I often stayed late and realized when it was already 1:00.

coldtea 8y ago

>Waking up early and getting things done is a matter of self discipline. Anything a person can do is a matter of self-discipline. I could not have slept for 36 days because of working 2-shifts and still "have the discipline" to go for a run. Slim chances, but it happens. But self-discipline is much easier to muster in "easy mode", when your other duties are taken care of by an army of servants. Talk of self-discipline without talk of environmental factors making people less tired, less stressed, and less concerned with basic life matters to focus on that discipline is moot. And talk of self-discipline should take into account aggregates, to discover what's the baseline for most people under certain conditions, not point at some outliers that did it against all odds and say "Here, anyone can do it" (as if difficulty doesn't matter). That's like pointing out Usain Bolt and saying "here, anyone can run sub-10 secs and if you don't you just lack the discipline". Do you think e.g. a-list actors who trivially lose amazing amounts of weight for roles have "more discipline" that the average folks who statistically fail much worse in their diets? Or that they have personal chefs, trainers, massagers, cleaners, and so on, plus a 5-10 million dollar incentive (to get the next "action" part), siding with their "self-discipline).

2III7 8y ago
> But self-discipline is much easier to muster in "easy mode", when your other duties are taken care of by an army of servants. Self discipline is also easier when you actually work on your self discipline, plan your day, have a schedule, stay off your phone and computer when not working and so on. There are countless ways you can make your life easier and stress free. Losing weight is a matter of eating healthy foods, using the stairs instead of elevators, taking walks during lunchtime, don't eat/drink sugar rich foods and drinks. Losing weight is obviously difficult when one has a medical condition that prevents losing weight, but when you don't it is a matter of self discipline to lose weight. Also taking daily vitamin D supplements makes a huge positive impact on ones mental and physical health.
- Djvacto 8y ago
  Nothing you are saying is explicitly wrong. Yeah life is easier when you have self discipline. But you're presenting what you're saying as a counter to what the other person is saying, which is that having all of those extra environmental factors (personal chef, housekeeping, etc) make it way easier. What you're saying is self discipline for the common folk is easier when they work on it vs if they don't. That doesn't negate that while them working/focusing on self discipline is easier by, say, a factor of 25% (numbers are just for explanation purposes), having to not worry about doing the dishes, planning your meals, etc makes it easier by 85 or 90%. Everything is a matter of self discipline, sure, but that's one factor out of a billion. You seem to be arguing that losing weight or getting your life together can be as easy as it is for the rich and powerful if you want it bad enough and take some vitamin D. That makes it easier, but not as easy as it is for, say, Jeff Bezos to exercise every day.
  - matwood 8y ago
    In some ways it's easier to exercise self-discipline when someone is super rich, but in others it is harder. For example, look at all of the rich and powerful with drug and alcohol problems. When someone has almost everything it is easy to become lazy and/or abuse substances. Is it easier for Bezos to get out of bed 20 minutes earlier and do 100 burpees than it is for you or I? IMO, it's not that different.

Amygaz 8y ago

I wake up at 6. Then I do breakfast, lunches, shower, walk the kiddo and backpack out the door, take the train, go to work. According to some website, my income puts me in the top 15%. So middle-high maybe... I apply stoicism to my life. It’s a work in progress, and will always be. Nobody becomes a stoic, that’s not a thing. And the authors clearly doesn’t know the difference.