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I always had a question about hiring Chinese engineers remotely. Is it easy to handle salary payments to China and will the Chinese Firewall interfere with any

I always had a question about hiring Chinese engineers remotely. Is it easy to handle salary payments to China and will the Chinese Firewall interfere with any web development activity they have to do? Is anyone here doing it?

mariopt 8y ago
Not sure about this but I think yes. China has network filtering software for VPNs, in fact, the more advanced anti VPN blocker tools are Chinese due to the firewall. They have several websites blocked like Google, Facebook (no OAuth integrations). Anything that involves networking might suffer. They would probably get a police visit if the firewall has triggers for sshing into a server (common in devops). Not joking: https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/issues/420#issuecomment-262202196 https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/issues/420#issuecomment-262... Maybe they could work but would have serious limitations I guess. In a "communist" country, don't even know if they have a tax status for freelancing given the government behaviour. The only work around would be to have a based company in China to outsource.
- outloudvi 8y ago
  Having a based company in China is not really a good idea unless you have a great market in China. You have to treat data seriously (not the privacy part, but the censorship and available-for-government-to-read part, like Russia). Things like Apple saving data of mainland China Apple IDs in GZData concerned a lot of people. [EDIT: Typo fix]
gaotongfei 8y ago
"Is it easy to handle salary payments to China " - yes, through Paypal "will the Chinese Firewall interfere with any web development activity they have to do" - Most of the Chinese programmers know how to bypass the firewall by using VPN or shadowsocks. Rails developer here, I have been following remote job listing sites for a really long time. Its frustrating when most of them set limitation as for "US"/"EU"/"NA" citizens only.
smudgymcscmudge 8y ago
Looking for some 996ers of your own? This might not be the best time and to place to ask about that.
- whoisjuan 8y ago
  Absolutely not. Quite the contrary. If they are unhappy with this conditions (and they rightfully are), it seems like an opportunity to hire them and give them reasonable work hours. I have met several Chinese programmers through out the years and was always impressed with their skills and work ethics.
  - smudgymcscmudge 8y ago
    I’m sorry to question your motives. Somehow I horribly misread the tone of your comment the first time around.
lauraluowei 8y ago
We can find method to solve the Firewall，for example，Shadow Socks or buy some vpn service。For openweb。

mariopt 8y ago

Not sure about this but I think yes. China has network filtering software for VPNs, in fact, the more advanced anti VPN blocker tools are Chinese due to the firewall. They have several websites blocked like Google, Facebook (no OAuth integrations). Anything that involves networking might suffer. They would probably get a police visit if the firewall has triggers for sshing into a server (common in devops). Not joking: https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/issues/420#issuecomment-262202196 https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/issues/420#issuecomment-262... Maybe they could work but would have serious limitations I guess. In a "communist" country, don't even know if they have a tax status for freelancing given the government behaviour. The only work around would be to have a based company in China to outsource.

outloudvi 8y ago
Having a based company in China is not really a good idea unless you have a great market in China. You have to treat data seriously (not the privacy part, but the censorship and available-for-government-to-read part, like Russia). Things like Apple saving data of mainland China Apple IDs in GZData concerned a lot of people. [EDIT: Typo fix]

gaotongfei 8y ago

"Is it easy to handle salary payments to China " - yes, through Paypal "will the Chinese Firewall interfere with any web development activity they have to do" - Most of the Chinese programmers know how to bypass the firewall by using VPN or shadowsocks. Rails developer here, I have been following remote job listing sites for a really long time. Its frustrating when most of them set limitation as for "US"/"EU"/"NA" citizens only.

smudgymcscmudge 8y ago

Looking for some 996ers of your own? This might not be the best time and to place to ask about that.

whoisjuan 8y ago
Absolutely not. Quite the contrary. If they are unhappy with this conditions (and they rightfully are), it seems like an opportunity to hire them and give them reasonable work hours. I have met several Chinese programmers through out the years and was always impressed with their skills and work ethics.
- smudgymcscmudge 8y ago
  I’m sorry to question your motives. Somehow I horribly misread the tone of your comment the first time around.

lauraluowei 8y ago

We can find method to solve the Firewall，for example，Shadow Socks or buy some vpn service。For openweb。