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I don’t understand how someone ends up on the list. But I’m fairly certain I understand it more than you do. You can be put on the list for all sorts of things

by ada1981 8y ago

I don’t understand how someone ends up on the list. But I’m fairly certain I understand it more than you do. You can be put on the list for all sorts of things... “examples of infractions include bad driving, smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online.”

jandrese 8y ago
Being a problem for local party officials too. Pretty hard to campaign against corruption if you are barred from travel and other systems.
powerapple 8y ago
no, not really.
yorwba 8y ago
You may be certain that you understand the list (this one http://zxgk.court.gov.cn/shixin/ http://zxgk.court.gov.cn/shixin/), but you are mistaken. You probably read an article about the "social credit system" that got the details wrong. Getting put on the list is a punishment that can be ordered by a court for various infractions, but not buying video games, because (unlike the other three) it is merely frowned upon, but not illegal. Discouraging video games was part of one companies' private implementation of a "social credit system". The list is another "social credit system". Various local governments within China are also running their own pilots. Those systems are not connected yet. It is expected that eventually the Chinese government will decide on one implementation by selecting parts of the pilot projects, but it isn't clear which parts. Until that happens, buying too many video games isn't going to ban you from taking high-speed rail.
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Isn’t this he same as how diversely family planning laws used to be enforced? Every company/locality will come up with their own thing because the central government isn’t as powerful/focused to do something on its own. Which is good or bad depending on how you look at it.

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I don’t understand how someone ends up on the list. But I’m fairly certain I understand it more than you do. You can be put on the list for all sorts of things

by ada1981 8y ago

jandrese 8y ago
Being a problem for local party officials too. Pretty hard to campaign against corruption if you are barred from travel and other systems.
powerapple 8y ago
no, not really.
yorwba 8y ago
You may be certain that you understand the list (this one http://zxgk.court.gov.cn/shixin/ http://zxgk.court.gov.cn/shixin/), but you are mistaken. You probably read an article about the "social credit system" that got the details wrong. Getting put on the list is a punishment that can be ordered by a court for various infractions, but not buying video games, because (unlike the other three) it is merely frowned upon, but not illegal. Discouraging video games was part of one companies' private implementation of a "social credit system". The list is another "social credit system". Various local governments within China are also running their own pilots. Those systems are not connected yet. It is expected that eventually the Chinese government will decide on one implementation by selecting parts of the pilot projects, but it isn't clear which parts. Until that happens, buying too many video games isn't going to ban you from taking high-speed rail.
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Isn’t this he same as how diversely family planning laws used to be enforced? Every company/locality will come up with their own thing because the central government isn’t as powerful/focused to do something on its own. Which is good or bad depending on how you look at it.