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You can see what sure looks a mag stripe at 2m58s in the video at https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/25/18277417/apple-pay-credit-card-announcement-goldman-sachs-e

You can see what sure looks a mag stripe at 2m58s in the video at https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/25/18277417/apple-pay-credit-card-announcement-goldman-sachs-event-2019 https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/25/18277417/apple-pay-credit... Disappointing.

sethhochberg 8y ago
Though very few and far between at this point, I'd say there are still a few times a year when I explicitly need to swipe a magstripe on my credit card - most recently a rural gas station in the California desert where I was seriously dependent on being able to fill up a tank. I think many people, myself included, would still consider a credit card without the option to fall back to magstripe a nonstarter for their primary physical payment method.
- MBCook 8y ago
  You need it in case you have EMV issues as well, or for lots of older little Square payment places, or heck most gas stations.
- usaphp 8y ago
  my local Sees Candies don't have a chip reader and only accept swipes for some reason
- int_19h 8y ago
  I still see many, many places that have chip readers, but the slot is taped over with a sign saying "swipe please" or something to that effect. And I don't mean dinky shops, either.
- banana_giraffe 8y ago
  What about people that use "knuckle-busters" to make a carbon impression of the card's numbers? I have a card that has a real number, but doesn't have the embossed numbers on it, so it too wouldn't work in such a machine. To be fair, it's been years since I've run into one of those machines, so they may no longer be used, or people that use them are just used to rejecting cards they can't impression.
  - sethhochberg 8y ago
    As far as I know, writing down the card details manually instead of taking an imprint is a viable option.
    - mlindner 8y ago
      Seems like an easy way to commit fraud. They copy down the numbers and then you walk way with your merchandise/product and then use apple to revoke the card number.
ehsankia 8y ago
I'm curious to know what the percentage of places are that 1. Support contactless 2. support chip 3. only support swiping. Secondly, I wonder if they can, for example, have a different number on the swipe, and have that number require extra security (such as approving each transaction on your phone).
- slantyyz 8y ago
  Anecdotal - I'm in Canada and pay mostly with credit cards. I don't even recall swiping my card in the past two years. I've basically been doing contactless under $100 whenever I can and chip and pin for all other transactions.
  - moogleii 8y ago
    I had to swipe in Whistler, BC last week FWIW.
  - ehsankia 8y ago
    I used to live there 6-7 years ago and even then I used contactless all the time. I've since moved the US (silicon valley no less), and no one had contact-less. Just this year my credit card finally got tap support... So yeah Canada is easily a decade ahead when it comes to this.
- Forbo 8y ago
  The vast majority of gas pumps I've used are swipe only.

sethhochberg 8y ago

Though very few and far between at this point, I'd say there are still a few times a year when I explicitly need to swipe a magstripe on my credit card - most recently a rural gas station in the California desert where I was seriously dependent on being able to fill up a tank. I think many people, myself included, would still consider a credit card without the option to fall back to magstripe a nonstarter for their primary physical payment method.

MBCook 8y ago
You need it in case you have EMV issues as well, or for lots of older little Square payment places, or heck most gas stations.
usaphp 8y ago
my local Sees Candies don't have a chip reader and only accept swipes for some reason
int_19h 8y ago
I still see many, many places that have chip readers, but the slot is taped over with a sign saying "swipe please" or something to that effect. And I don't mean dinky shops, either.
banana_giraffe 8y ago
What about people that use "knuckle-busters" to make a carbon impression of the card's numbers? I have a card that has a real number, but doesn't have the embossed numbers on it, so it too wouldn't work in such a machine. To be fair, it's been years since I've run into one of those machines, so they may no longer be used, or people that use them are just used to rejecting cards they can't impression.
- sethhochberg 8y ago
  As far as I know, writing down the card details manually instead of taking an imprint is a viable option.
  - mlindner 8y ago
    Seems like an easy way to commit fraud. They copy down the numbers and then you walk way with your merchandise/product and then use apple to revoke the card number.

ehsankia 8y ago

I'm curious to know what the percentage of places are that 1. Support contactless 2. support chip 3. only support swiping. Secondly, I wonder if they can, for example, have a different number on the swipe, and have that number require extra security (such as approving each transaction on your phone).

slantyyz 8y ago
Anecdotal - I'm in Canada and pay mostly with credit cards. I don't even recall swiping my card in the past two years. I've basically been doing contactless under $100 whenever I can and chip and pin for all other transactions.
- moogleii 8y ago
  I had to swipe in Whistler, BC last week FWIW.
- ehsankia 8y ago
  I used to live there 6-7 years ago and even then I used contactless all the time. I've since moved the US (silicon valley no less), and no one had contact-less. Just this year my credit card finally got tap support... So yeah Canada is easily a decade ahead when it comes to this.
Forbo 8y ago
The vast majority of gas pumps I've used are swipe only.