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If "news" involves reaching conclusions, isn't that really "editorial" content? For example, it's one thing to report what AG Barr's letter on the Mueller inve

If "news" involves reaching conclusions, isn't that really "editorial" content? For example, it's one thing to report what AG Barr's letter on the Mueller investigation says, and maybe also what it doesn't say. It's also "news" to report what various players say about the report. It's another thing for reporters to speculate what it means in terms of future investigations, or whether the report is "trustworthy," or to reach similar conclusions.

amanaplanacanal 8y ago
I suspect most people either can't or don't care to tell the difference. Fox News, for instance is widely regarded to be biased to the right. And their opinion or editorial content absolutely is, often to the point of absurdity. But their actual news content is very well done so far as I can see. Do their viewers distinguish the two? I doubt it. Do their detractors distinguish the two? I doubt that also.
- jimbokun 8y ago
  "Do their detractors distinguish the two?" There is a significant amount of respect for Shep Smith and Chris Wallace in predominantly liberal news discussions (like r/politics subreddit) for being willing to criticize Trump and Republicans.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    Was there similar respect for these two men before 2015, when they were presumably being no less sincere but circumstances were such that the targets of their ire were not targets shared by predominantly liberal news discussion forums? That might sound like a rhetorical question, but it's not. I don't know the answer.
    - jimbokun 8y ago
      "Was there similar respect for these two men before 2015" Yes, I think so. Random article about Shep Smith I found with a quick Google: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/shep-smiths-reaction-obama-gay-marriage-was-not-your-typical-fox-news/328343/ https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/shep-sm... Chris Wallace: https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-wallace-barack-obama-don-imus-2011-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-wallace-barack-obama-d... So I think they have had the reputation for being willing to sometimes buck the Republican Party line for a while now.

amanaplanacanal 8y ago

I suspect most people either can't or don't care to tell the difference. Fox News, for instance is widely regarded to be biased to the right. And their opinion or editorial content absolutely is, often to the point of absurdity. But their actual news content is very well done so far as I can see. Do their viewers distinguish the two? I doubt it. Do their detractors distinguish the two? I doubt that also.

jimbokun 8y ago
"Do their detractors distinguish the two?" There is a significant amount of respect for Shep Smith and Chris Wallace in predominantly liberal news discussions (like r/politics subreddit) for being willing to criticize Trump and Republicans.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  Was there similar respect for these two men before 2015, when they were presumably being no less sincere but circumstances were such that the targets of their ire were not targets shared by predominantly liberal news discussion forums? That might sound like a rhetorical question, but it's not. I don't know the answer.
  - jimbokun 8y ago
    "Was there similar respect for these two men before 2015" Yes, I think so. Random article about Shep Smith I found with a quick Google: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/shep-smiths-reaction-obama-gay-marriage-was-not-your-typical-fox-news/328343/ https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/05/shep-sm... Chris Wallace: https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-wallace-barack-obama-don-imus-2011-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/chris-wallace-barack-obama-d... So I think they have had the reputation for being willing to sometimes buck the Republican Party line for a while now.