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$249 is still a little overpriced considering alternative options, especially with a refurb/used iPhone 7 going for really cheap. As in, like, $160 on Ebay and

$249 is still a little overpriced considering alternative options, especially with a refurb/used iPhone 7 going for really cheap. As in, like, $160 on Ebay and more expensive for refurbs and new ones. But hey, that's how they get rid of extra inventory. Not sure why it was delisted in the first place and not just put there, but that's their prerogative.

oneplane 8y ago
I wouldn't call that overpriced. Aside from just a piece of hardware, you also get the whole new-device deal with box etc. as well as free support, warranty and a clean serial/id/iCloud/IMEI/MAC combo.
- trazire 8y ago
  I guess so. To each their own, I guess.
- morpheuskafka 8y ago
  Swappa operates a IMEI blacklist checker free as a public service: https://swappa.com/esn https://swappa.com/esn
  - Nextgrid 8y ago
    Just wondering why the blacklist wouldn’t be public to begin with - the blacklist would be the most effective only if anyone can check it free of charge.
  - oneplane 8y ago
    "Sorry, this service is not allowed in all countries."
ericabiz 8y ago
The iPhone 7/7 Plus is the series I tell everyone to avoid purchasing. We refuse to stock them for resale as well, and it’s gotten so bad we even have customers sign a disclaimer when they bring them in for repair. (Note: We are not Apple authorized, so this is our policy, not Apple’s.) They have a serious manufacturing defect commonly known as the “Audio IC” issue. Apple downplays it, but eventually it hits almost every 7 series. Apple offered a free repair program for a while, but has since discontinued it. The 7 series is pretty much “designed to fail.” We have seen flawless phones in Otterbox cases have this issue. The 6 Plus also has defects on the Touch IC chip. We recommend the 6s or 8 series for customers. If anyone reading this has a 7 or 7 Plus and is concerned about this issue, back up your phone on a regular basis at a minimum. Trade it in for an 8 or 8 Plus when you can. If you’re happy with your 7, you don’t need to go to the X/XS, but I would recommend stepping up to the 8.
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- jbnorth 8y ago
  I am ACIT and ACMT certified working for an AASP and you're absolutely right. The Audio IC issue with iPhone 7 and 7+ is awful but Apple refuses to acknowledge it's their problem. They had a rep program for a few months when it first started surfacing but then cancelled it when their own internal investigation said it wasn't their fault. While we tend not to recommend the 6s, we also don't sell and iPhones whether new or refurb.
  - robin_reala 8y ago
    Not sure they refuse to acknowledge it: my wife’s 7+ had this last month and the Apple store said “Oh yeah, known problem” and replaced it free of charge.
    - Double_a_92 8y ago
      Did they really admit that their products have problems? Wow. I would have expected them to say something like "Oh yes It was totally your fault, but we can replace it for free because we're nice."
      - robin_reala 8y ago
        Yep. Well, “ett känd problem” as this was in Sweden, but they acknowledged it as an Apple thing. Maybe because it was still under EU warranty?
        jbnorth 8y ago
        Yes if it's still under a warranty then Apple will repair or replace it free of charge.
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bluedino 8y ago
I dont get it either. The 6S/7 are bargains and better IMo
meritt 8y ago
It's never been about price, it's about form factor. The iPhone 7 is 28% larger (HxW) than the iPhone SE. That's precisely why I've refused to upgrade to the later versions too: They're absurdly large.
- jodrellblank 8y ago
  And the SE is the last one which doesn't have a camera lump sticking out on the back, so it can't lie flat on a surface, and rocks and rattles when you try and type on it.
- cottsak 8y ago
  Totally!
- mlindner 8y ago
  I went from iPhone 5 to iPhone XS and I thought I would have problems with it's size but it's not so bad. It's not too large comparatively.
  - tfehring 8y ago
    I still use an iPhone SE. Both of my previous smartphones (Galaxy S3 and Moto X) were significantly larger than the SE and significantly smaller than the XS. The form factor was the only reason I switched and was noticeably better for me from day 1.
  - fouc 8y ago
    iPhone XS is even bigger than iPhone 6/7/8 though :P
  - z6 8y ago
    But it is significantly larger, and it is also significantly heavier (weighs 50% more). The weight aspect is often ignored, but I found it very noticeable when I tried the XS. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple-iPhone-XS/phones/10001,10766 https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple...
fouc 8y ago
Well it is a true refurb from apple, which means it is indistinguishable from a new phone. It's also got a 1 year warranty.

oneplane 8y ago

I wouldn't call that overpriced. Aside from just a piece of hardware, you also get the whole new-device deal with box etc. as well as free support, warranty and a clean serial/id/iCloud/IMEI/MAC combo.

trazire 8y ago
I guess so. To each their own, I guess.
morpheuskafka 8y ago
Swappa operates a IMEI blacklist checker free as a public service: https://swappa.com/esn https://swappa.com/esn
- Nextgrid 8y ago
  Just wondering why the blacklist wouldn’t be public to begin with - the blacklist would be the most effective only if anyone can check it free of charge.
- oneplane 8y ago
  "Sorry, this service is not allowed in all countries."

ericabiz 8y ago

The iPhone 7/7 Plus is the series I tell everyone to avoid purchasing. We refuse to stock them for resale as well, and it’s gotten so bad we even have customers sign a disclaimer when they bring them in for repair. (Note: We are not Apple authorized, so this is our policy, not Apple’s.) They have a serious manufacturing defect commonly known as the “Audio IC” issue. Apple downplays it, but eventually it hits almost every 7 series. Apple offered a free repair program for a while, but has since discontinued it. The 7 series is pretty much “designed to fail.” We have seen flawless phones in Otterbox cases have this issue. The 6 Plus also has defects on the Touch IC chip. We recommend the 6s or 8 series for customers. If anyone reading this has a 7 or 7 Plus and is concerned about this issue, back up your phone on a regular basis at a minimum. Trade it in for an 8 or 8 Plus when you can. If you’re happy with your 7, you don’t need to go to the X/XS, but I would recommend stepping up to the 8.

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jbnorth 8y ago
I am ACIT and ACMT certified working for an AASP and you're absolutely right. The Audio IC issue with iPhone 7 and 7+ is awful but Apple refuses to acknowledge it's their problem. They had a rep program for a few months when it first started surfacing but then cancelled it when their own internal investigation said it wasn't their fault. While we tend not to recommend the 6s, we also don't sell and iPhones whether new or refurb.
- robin_reala 8y ago
  Not sure they refuse to acknowledge it: my wife’s 7+ had this last month and the Apple store said “Oh yeah, known problem” and replaced it free of charge.
  - Double_a_92 8y ago
    Did they really admit that their products have problems? Wow. I would have expected them to say something like "Oh yes It was totally your fault, but we can replace it for free because we're nice."
    - robin_reala 8y ago
      Yep. Well, “ett känd problem” as this was in Sweden, but they acknowledged it as an Apple thing. Maybe because it was still under EU warranty?
      - jbnorth 8y ago
        Yes if it's still under a warranty then Apple will repair or replace it free of charge.
- deleted 8y ago
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bluedino 8y ago

I dont get it either. The 6S/7 are bargains and better IMo

meritt 8y ago

It's never been about price, it's about form factor. The iPhone 7 is 28% larger (HxW) than the iPhone SE. That's precisely why I've refused to upgrade to the later versions too: They're absurdly large.

jodrellblank 8y ago
And the SE is the last one which doesn't have a camera lump sticking out on the back, so it can't lie flat on a surface, and rocks and rattles when you try and type on it.
cottsak 8y ago
Totally!
mlindner 8y ago
I went from iPhone 5 to iPhone XS and I thought I would have problems with it's size but it's not so bad. It's not too large comparatively.
- tfehring 8y ago
  I still use an iPhone SE. Both of my previous smartphones (Galaxy S3 and Moto X) were significantly larger than the SE and significantly smaller than the XS. The form factor was the only reason I switched and was noticeably better for me from day 1.
- fouc 8y ago
  iPhone XS is even bigger than iPhone 6/7/8 though :P
- z6 8y ago
  But it is significantly larger, and it is also significantly heavier (weighs 50% more). The weight aspect is often ignored, but I found it very noticeable when I tried the XS. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple-iPhone-XS/phones/10001,10766 https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple...

fouc 8y ago

Well it is a true refurb from apple, which means it is indistinguishable from a new phone. It's also got a 1 year warranty.