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Hmm. Italy allies with an evil dictatorship that has a concentration camps for millions of minorities, and prosecutes religion by shutting down churches and ja

Hmm. Italy allies with an evil dictatorship that has a concentration camps for millions of minorities, and prosecutes religion by shutting down churches and jailing pastors. Sounds familiar...

kome 8y ago
Yes, Italy is also allied or has trade partnerships with Saudi Arabia or Israel.
ben_jones 8y ago
Yes, Italy is also allied or has trade partnerships with a country that tortures prisoners, overthrows democratically elected governments, invades countries on the whims of its military industrial complex, uses drone strikes indiscriminately, and who tech economy thrives on oil/oligarch money...
coliveira 8y ago
The US has allied itself with China since the 80s...
- outwebbyyou 8y ago
  US declared China as main competitor last year (as declared by VP pence), enforced high tariffs as punishment on China, and the US military is on high alert with China as the main enemy focus for years to come. Because they realized Xi Jing Ping the dictator was a paradigm shift. Europe is now just doing the paradigm shift, urging its member states to act as a unified front against China. Something that Canada, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, India, New Zealand, and Vietnam has started to do
  - discscoober 8y ago
    See my comment above as reply to your bull. Plain amd simpl, thievery is the root of China’s coming misfortune. The piper always come calling. Their theft around the world has hit mind boggling rates. The result of that for them I think is going to be a lot worse than people think.
- adventured 8y ago
  The US is not an ally of China. It cooperates with China to maintain peaceful military and political relations in Asia and it has vast trade with China. There's a dramatic, fundamental difference between being an ally and being a global competitor that you try to get along with (ie try not to go to war with as you collide repeatedly on matters of perceived national interest). Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, etc. Those are allies of the US. I don't think there's actually much confusion in the difference between a US ally relationship like Britain and the modern US relationship with China.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >There's a dramatic, fundamental difference Yes, the difference being "when it suits the US it's OK, when it suits somebody else, it's bad".
    - discscoober 8y ago
      Raging horesh#%%#^^. China is built on thievery and finally after decades of escalating theft US is looking like we’re being more aggressive, maybe. The chinese theft has reached levels of being clear acts of war and its time to treat it as such. The hacking and corporate spy rates have escalated 3x in the last 3 years. Most arent aware how serious it is. As chinese leave for the US they are coached to thieve, and when they bring back good data they are paid to start a company.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      >China is built on thievery and finally after decades of escalating theft US is looking like we’re being more aggressive, maybe. Yeah, more proving my point. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2013-02-01/piracy-and-fraud-propelled-the-u-s-industrial-revolution https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2013-02-01/piracy... https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ Not to mention that the same exact argument was once leveled at the "subpar" "copycat" "ripoffs" of Taiwan and Japan (regarding cars, electronics, etc) back in the 60s and 70s. Funny how that turned out...
dang 8y ago
Trolling like this will get you banned here. Please don't. Also, it looks like this account is using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. We ban accounts that do that, because it destroys the intellectual curiosity HN exists for. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the spirit of this site to heart? We'd be grateful. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19470535 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19470535 and marked it off-topic.

Hmm. Italy allies with an evil dictatorship that has a concentration camps for millions of minorities, and prosecutes religion by shutting down churches and jailing pastors. Sounds familiar...

kome 8y ago

Yes, Italy is also allied or has trade partnerships with Saudi Arabia or Israel.

ben_jones 8y ago

Yes, Italy is also allied or has trade partnerships with a country that tortures prisoners, overthrows democratically elected governments, invades countries on the whims of its military industrial complex, uses drone strikes indiscriminately, and who tech economy thrives on oil/oligarch money...

coliveira 8y ago

The US has allied itself with China since the 80s...

outwebbyyou 8y ago
US declared China as main competitor last year (as declared by VP pence), enforced high tariffs as punishment on China, and the US military is on high alert with China as the main enemy focus for years to come. Because they realized Xi Jing Ping the dictator was a paradigm shift. Europe is now just doing the paradigm shift, urging its member states to act as a unified front against China. Something that Canada, Australia, Japan, Taiwan, India, New Zealand, and Vietnam has started to do
- discscoober 8y ago
  See my comment above as reply to your bull. Plain amd simpl, thievery is the root of China’s coming misfortune. The piper always come calling. Their theft around the world has hit mind boggling rates. The result of that for them I think is going to be a lot worse than people think.
adventured 8y ago
The US is not an ally of China. It cooperates with China to maintain peaceful military and political relations in Asia and it has vast trade with China. There's a dramatic, fundamental difference between being an ally and being a global competitor that you try to get along with (ie try not to go to war with as you collide repeatedly on matters of perceived national interest). Britain, France, Germany, Poland, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Philippines, etc. Those are allies of the US. I don't think there's actually much confusion in the difference between a US ally relationship like Britain and the modern US relationship with China.
- coldtea 8y ago
  >There's a dramatic, fundamental difference Yes, the difference being "when it suits the US it's OK, when it suits somebody else, it's bad".
  - discscoober 8y ago
    Raging horesh#%%#^^. China is built on thievery and finally after decades of escalating theft US is looking like we’re being more aggressive, maybe. The chinese theft has reached levels of being clear acts of war and its time to treat it as such. The hacking and corporate spy rates have escalated 3x in the last 3 years. Most arent aware how serious it is. As chinese leave for the US they are coached to thieve, and when they bring back good data they are paid to start a company.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    >China is built on thievery and finally after decades of escalating theft US is looking like we’re being more aggressive, maybe. Yeah, more proving my point. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2013-02-01/piracy-and-fraud-propelled-the-u-s-industrial-revolution https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2013-02-01/piracy... https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/12/06/we-were-pirates-too/ Not to mention that the same exact argument was once leveled at the "subpar" "copycat" "ripoffs" of Taiwan and Japan (regarding cars, electronics, etc) back in the 60s and 70s. Funny how that turned out...

dang 8y ago

Trolling like this will get you banned here. Please don't. Also, it looks like this account is using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. We ban accounts that do that, because it destroys the intellectual curiosity HN exists for. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the spirit of this site to heart? We'd be grateful. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19470535 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19470535 and marked it off-topic.