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The new cloud infrastructure group is kind of hidden gem. Its very different than the rest of Oracle. It started in Seattle about 4 years ago and is like 40% e

The new cloud infrastructure group is kind of hidden gem. Its very different than the rest of Oracle. It started in Seattle about 4 years ago and is like 40% ex Amazon and 40% ex Microsoft. They also pay very well, because Oracle doesn't have a great reputation. The work is good, with a TON of room for growth and leadership. The goal is ambitious (take on the big players) and well funded. The people are good. Worklife is good. They are also still hiring.

sofaofthedamned 8y ago
I went through the recruitment process for a cloud role in their Bristol, UK office. It was bizarre. I was video interviewed by 3 of their people around Europe, but none seemed to have an idea of what they were trying to do or crucially what they wanted me to do. The people I spoke to were technically proficient, but not driven in the same way you'd imagine a FAANG employee to be. I eventually gave up after the process dragged out too far. You can imagine Amazon / AWS being able to get away with this, but Oracle?
- tinyhouse 8y ago
  Don't know about Oracle, but in many big companies and especially FAANG, the people interviewing you usually have no idea what you're going to work on or what the team is working on. It's usually only the hiring manager who can give you such info. There are so many people and teams in every organization, and the people who interview you are usually people with the right skills that happen to be available in the time slots you provided. It's usually not the people you will work with.
rooam-dev 8y ago
Is the work enjoyable? I would assume you have to use only Oracle branded solutions/tools which I am not sure is for everyone.
- volkadav 8y ago
  I work at OCI. It's a pretty good gig, all things considered. Just my two cents. There isn't a super strong push to use The One True Corporate Solution as you mention, by and large we're given a very free hand in terms of tech selection.
- sitkack 8y ago
  This is not true, when I was there each team could use whatever they wanted to build and deploy their services. Go, Python, Java, C++, etc. Literally anything was allowed. I have no idea now.
JohnFen 8y ago
Enjoy it while it lasts, but keep an eye out for the writing on the wall and move on when you see it. It is Oracle, after all
alexeldeib 8y ago
Why do you think Oracle has a chance at cloud? Honest question. Their competition at the low end is Google, which doesn’t bode great on quality, and with AWS and Azure they’re fighting on quality and against strong enterprise groups. Not sure who would predict that would go well, but it’s a big market and I suppose they have to try. I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future.
- bluedino 8y ago
  What are they calling “cloud”? Netsuite does own the largest cloud-based ERP
  - gamblor956 8y ago
    Netsuite is owned by Oracle but is a separate business unit from Oracle Cloud.
- Twirrim 8y ago
  > Why do you think Oracle has a chance at cloud? Honest question. Because Oracle still has an extremely large customer base, and an exceptionally good and extensive sales organisation that's really good at selling stuff to people. The enterprise market is still not that well tapped by existing cloud providers. Look at the kinds of sales figures enterprise serving companies pull in, and consider that only a smaller fraction of them have moved to the cloud. Anecdote: When OCI was announced ("Oracle Bare Metal Cloud") about 2 1/2 years ago, the staff who were there launching it at the Oracle conference had CIOs and the like coming up to them, even then, saying "So what really is this 'cloud' thing" > I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future. Succeed or fail, it's still interesting work. It pays well. Flexible on hours. Good co-workers, good sense of direction. Lots of interesting problems to solve. None of the bullshit "work everyone to the bone" that I kept seeing in AWS. Good opportunities to make a difference. In all honesty, I was burned out at AWS and thought "Well.. I've put up with absolute hell in prior tech jobs, and have built up a reasonable resume. I can always move on if it turns out to be hell". My expectations were pretty low. I knew the director I was going to be working for, having worked with him in AWS, and knew he actually gave a damn about operations. It turns out to have been one of the better career decisions I've made. Which is definitely not anything I would have associated with a job working for Oracle.
zaphirplane 8y ago
That is the same group this story is about ? Funny recommendation

sofaofthedamned 8y ago

I went through the recruitment process for a cloud role in their Bristol, UK office. It was bizarre. I was video interviewed by 3 of their people around Europe, but none seemed to have an idea of what they were trying to do or crucially what they wanted me to do. The people I spoke to were technically proficient, but not driven in the same way you'd imagine a FAANG employee to be. I eventually gave up after the process dragged out too far. You can imagine Amazon / AWS being able to get away with this, but Oracle?

tinyhouse 8y ago
Don't know about Oracle, but in many big companies and especially FAANG, the people interviewing you usually have no idea what you're going to work on or what the team is working on. It's usually only the hiring manager who can give you such info. There are so many people and teams in every organization, and the people who interview you are usually people with the right skills that happen to be available in the time slots you provided. It's usually not the people you will work with.

rooam-dev 8y ago

Is the work enjoyable? I would assume you have to use only Oracle branded solutions/tools which I am not sure is for everyone.

volkadav 8y ago
I work at OCI. It's a pretty good gig, all things considered. Just my two cents. There isn't a super strong push to use The One True Corporate Solution as you mention, by and large we're given a very free hand in terms of tech selection.
sitkack 8y ago
This is not true, when I was there each team could use whatever they wanted to build and deploy their services. Go, Python, Java, C++, etc. Literally anything was allowed. I have no idea now.

JohnFen 8y ago

Enjoy it while it lasts, but keep an eye out for the writing on the wall and move on when you see it. It is Oracle, after all

alexeldeib 8y ago

Why do you think Oracle has a chance at cloud? Honest question. Their competition at the low end is Google, which doesn’t bode great on quality, and with AWS and Azure they’re fighting on quality and against strong enterprise groups. Not sure who would predict that would go well, but it’s a big market and I suppose they have to try. I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future.

bluedino 8y ago
What are they calling “cloud”? Netsuite does own the largest cloud-based ERP
- gamblor956 8y ago
  Netsuite is owned by Oracle but is a separate business unit from Oracle Cloud.
Twirrim 8y ago
> Why do you think Oracle has a chance at cloud? Honest question. Because Oracle still has an extremely large customer base, and an exceptionally good and extensive sales organisation that's really good at selling stuff to people. The enterprise market is still not that well tapped by existing cloud providers. Look at the kinds of sales figures enterprise serving companies pull in, and consider that only a smaller fraction of them have moved to the cloud. Anecdote: When OCI was announced ("Oracle Bare Metal Cloud") about 2 1/2 years ago, the staff who were there launching it at the Oracle conference had CIOs and the like coming up to them, even then, saying "So what really is this 'cloud' thing" > I’ve seen Oracle cloud jobs and admittedly balked, no bone to pick with them but don’t see a bright future. Succeed or fail, it's still interesting work. It pays well. Flexible on hours. Good co-workers, good sense of direction. Lots of interesting problems to solve. None of the bullshit "work everyone to the bone" that I kept seeing in AWS. Good opportunities to make a difference. In all honesty, I was burned out at AWS and thought "Well.. I've put up with absolute hell in prior tech jobs, and have built up a reasonable resume. I can always move on if it turns out to be hell". My expectations were pretty low. I knew the director I was going to be working for, having worked with him in AWS, and knew he actually gave a damn about operations. It turns out to have been one of the better career decisions I've made. Which is definitely not anything I would have associated with a job working for Oracle.

zaphirplane 8y ago

That is the same group this story is about ? Funny recommendation