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Cloudflare Registrar
- azinman2 8y agoIf they don’t charge for themselves, what’s the motivation to do this?
- SteveGregory 8y agoThey get you to sign up, give your credit card, use their nameservers, and then if you get any serious traffic, they will conveniently be there to offer extra features with a paid plan. In my opinion, this is exceptional marketing.
- slondr 8y agoCloudflare's entire business model is positioning themselves as the middleman to every part of the internet. They don't host your site, but they'll mirror the front-end on their CDN to speed it up. They'll handle your DNS and TLS certs, and even your domain name, even though they aren't (yet) in the business of selling either. Pretty much everything Google and Amazon offer as side services Cloudflare offers for free to some extent, and then charges for enhanced versions of those products.
- ebg13 8y agoGiven that they're selling this at cost, what does cloudflare get out of this?
- jgrahamc 8y agoWe hope you'll buy other services from us.
- thinkcomp 8y agoWith all due respect, you make my life (and many others' lives) miserable by enabling extortion rackets, mentally ill stalker types, and hate-mongers on a daily basis. It's not a new issue for you guys and you do nothing to respond to e-mails/forms/news media until it reaches a boiling point. You petitioned the UK Government to recognize the ways in which it had harassed Alan Turing? That's wonderful. Kudos. I petition you to recognize the ways in which you are enabling--even encouraging--the harassment of thousands more. Imagine if Turing's adversaries had worn masks, no one knew where they came from, and no government was competent to investigate cross-border. That's your employer, selling the masks. If I or my family members end up dead at the hands of the convicted murderer (against whom I have a restraining order) who has been stalking me and posting vitriol on Cloudflare-enabled sites, I hope you think about your role and the news cameras show up at your front desk. Or your desk. Very much looking forward to Cloudflare's eventual bankruptcy. So no, I will not register domain names through you.
- jacobush 8y agoHow?
- slondr 8y agoWhat?
- megous 8y agoPresumably by hiding the origin server. But that can be done by other technologies too, so it's not unique to CF. But I'd like more details from thinkcomp.
- thinkcomp 8y agoCorrect. One example of literally thousands: https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-this-website-and-all-the-cheater-websites/ https://reportcheatingonline.com/aaron-jacob-greenspan-owns-... "Protected" by Cloudflare against "attack." See also https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-of-california-county-of-santa-clara/greenspan-v-masmarques/ https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/3a4l9qm45/superior-court-o.... See also https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1793854053 https://splinternews.com/at-home-with-a-revenge-porn-mogul-1.... See also https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-cloudflare-storing-extreme-neo-nazi-content-on-uk-soil https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/web-giant-clou....
- spurgu 8y agoWhat?
- voidlogic 8y agoPower. Soon CF will be completely pervasive. CDN? Certs? DNS? Registrar? The are playing the long game for the win.
- brightball 8y agoIn the short term, a large user base until they're ready to raise the price.
- dazc 8y agoOnce you become a paying customer of Cloudflare you will understand. An extra $5 for this and that soon adds up.
- dguo 8y agoOne drawback to using Cloudflare Registrar that wasn't obvious to me at first is that you have to use Cloudflare's nameservers. Not that I blame them for it, but it'd be nice if the marketing page made this detail more obvious. I've chosen to pay an extra $0.50 or so per domain to Porkbun for the option of using other nameservers.
- ocdtrekkie 8y agoYeah, I found this irritatingly problematic, and it means if I have a DNS issue to my host, I may need to leave Cloudflare just to troubleshoot it. There's several other features I find missing compared to a more mature registrar, but hopefully they'll get there eventually. For now, I'm moving my low-importance domains over to it for the cost savings, but will keep my primary domains under GoDaddy.
- jamestanderson 8y agoI've moved some domains to Cloudflare Registrar not knowing this limitation. I asked them about it and the support person said they are targeting Q1 2019 for this feature. Now that we're approaching that date I'm not sure they'll hit that. I've also had a billing issue with Cloudflare Registrar. I transferred two domains and paid the renewal fee, and two months later was charged for the same domains again. They've since issued a refund after I raised a support ticket (still waiting on that to hit my card), but the fact that it happened at all is worrying to me. Granted I was in early access so I expected some things not to be polished yet, but these are pretty critical areas to get right as a registrar. And since my billing issue happened just last week I doubt that issue has been fixed with the general release. So I'm going to hold off on transferring more domains until it matures, or just stick with Gandi.
- samatcloudflare 8y agoI apologize for the billing issue. I understand how frustrating that would be and it's well below our standards. We're working as a team to make that right and earn back your trust now.
- Thaxll 8y agoThe page is really confusing, can we register our domain with them or only transfer an existing domain?
- useful 8y agoCan you hide your contact details? The service is super cheap but that spotlight has a hidden cost.
- adventured 8y agoContact information is redacted by default. I've moved a bunch of domains over, they're all redacted in the whois without me taking any action. It lists the registrar as Cloudflare. It shows the domain updated date, the creation date and registry expiration date. There are no contact details listed at all. And it shows the DNS servers (in this case the Cloudflare LOU and MAY name servers). In fact the sole problem I've had, is with another registrar. I've had my domains with GoDaddy for 15 or 17 years. I've never had a problem with them, so it was fine, but they've begun seriously pushing their prices up (now about double what Cloudflare is charging). All the transfers from GoDaddy to Cloudflare went super smooth, took minutes, except for one high-value domain I've owned since the 1990s. GoDaddy is quasi attempting to hold that hostage, they put it through some kind of manual transfer intervention that will take a week to complete (hopefully).
- useful 8y agoAwesome, thank you. I have the same situation with godaddy, recently purchased 10 years to avoid yearly gouging.
- tych0 8y agoOff topic, but something I've wondered for a while. Maybe someone here knows :) Years ago (13, to be exact) when I was young and didn't know anything and couldn't afford to buy a parked .com that made more sense, I registered a .ws domain at Godaddy of all places. It has subsequently become the e-mail address I use for everything. Unfortunately, .ws doesn't really allow transfers. Now that there are all these non-evil registrars popping up, I'd like to switch to one of them, but I can't. Does anyone have any ideas about what if anything I could do? I suppose I could by another domain and forward the e-mail, but the whole point of having my own domain was that I wouldn't have to switch again :(
- speps 8y agohttp://samoanic.ws/faq/index.dhtml http://samoanic.ws/faq/index.dhtml > Can I transfer my domain to another registrar? > Yes, .WS domain transfers may take place in accordance with ICANN's "Policy on Transfer of Registrations between Registrars". Please contact the registrar you would like to transfer to for instructions on how to proceed.
- tych0 8y agoUnfortunately nobody actually supports it. Dreamhost doesn't, Namecheap doesn't, etc. If you try, they all give you the same "The WS registry doesn't allow transfer of domains." error, because historically they have not.
- maxwellpower 8y agoUniregistry does ... https://uniregistry.com/pricing https://uniregistry.com/pricing I personally would never trust anyone else.
- dguo 8y agoIt seems like GoDaddy allows transfers out. You just need a registrar that accepts them. https://www.godaddy.com/help/about-ws-domains-5860#2 https://www.godaddy.com/help/about-ws-domains-5860#2
- partiallypro 8y agoI've been in the beta for months, but it's a bit annoying...5 months in and you still can't register new domains. The domain management is also pretty confusing, because it's all jumbled together with the DNS interface. They need to have 2 interfaces, even if they are interconnected.
- samatcloudflare 8y agoThanks for the feedback. Working on new registrations now; focus at launch was to help users of Cloudflare's DNS services find a better alternative to domain registration.
- throw0101a 8y agoMeta: "support for hundreds of TLDs" * https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/ https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/ Crikey there's a lot of stuff out there. Seems that ICANN has approved just about any random word in the English language.
- snek 8y agoBut they still haven't got .dev :(
- andyjohnson0 8y ago.uk domains still not supported either
- dazc 8y agoI can't see Nominet letting it happen.
- tialaramex 8y agoWhy in particular? Plenty of other registrars offer .uk or the public suffixes under it like .co.uk and .org.uk The Nominet requirements do cause these to break mysteriously much more often than some generic TLD spun up yesterday by people convinced this is a gold rush (e.g. my registrar offered me a great renewal deal for a .co.uk I control, I pressed "Yes please" and then their system believed I had taken the deal but didn't renew the domain, after a few days they confirmed that the deal makes no sense for .co.uk and refunded the money, they had forgotten to blacklist Nominet when adding their deal feature), but it works well enough most of the time.
- djmobley 8y ago“Some registries do not allow domains to be registered with WHOIS Redaction or WHOIS Privacy. Many of these are country TLDs (ccTLDs) like .uk. Cloudflare does not yet support TLDs that prohibit WHOIS redaction, but we will in the near future.” - https://developers.cloudflare.com/registrar/domain-registration/whois-redaction/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/registrar/domain-registrat...
- brobinson 8y agoMy experience with Registrar has been 4/5 okay and 1/5 horrible so far. I transferred five domains from Namecheap, and four of them went through within an hour. The fifth was in a pending status. I was charged a one year renewal for each domain as part of the transfer process. The fifth domain hadn't transferred after a few days so I filed a support ticket. They told me it could take up to 15 days. After roughly 30 days, I was billed _again_ for a one year renewal of that domain which is still on Namecheap (unlocked), and still pending transfer. Registrar has now charged me $90 (.io domain is $45/year) for a domain _which they do not control_, and this has obviously not been reflected in the domain expiration date. I contacted support again and they issued me a $45 refund, but the domain is still not transferred... not sure what to do at this point. (ticket #1657921 if anyone from CF is reading this)
- samatcloudflare 8y agoSorry about the billing issue; that's really frustrating. We've been working on a migration of our billing systems, but that has led to some cases of double charges which are unacceptable. Working to make that right now and glad the refund was successful. I'm looking at your ticket now; will make sure this gets solved today.
- brobinson 8y agoThanks. I will follow up with you on the ticket itself.
- jamestanderson 8y agoSame exact billing issue happened to me, except my domains had transferred successfully. I paid the renewal fee and was later charged again.
- awill 8y agoThis is precisely my fear. Cloudflare is using price as a selling point. For people with just a few domains, price isn't important. I have 5 domains with hover.com. I'm happy to pay a couple of bucks extra per year to know that there's real support. I can call and get an answer in 10 seconds. Granted, I've never needed to call support, but losing my domain would be a huge disaster with no website, no email, and cost me hours of time. I see no reason to risk anything to save $5 a year
- bitmedley 8y agoNote that for some reason, Cloudflare charges substantially more for .io domains than other registrars. Cloudflare charges $45 whereas Dynadot charges $26.99 and Porkbun charges $28.97. https://community.cloudflare.com/t/io-domain-price-not-wholesale-price/54709/13 https://community.cloudflare.com/t/io-domain-price-not-whole... https://tld-list.com/tld/io https://tld-list.com/tld/io
- samatcloudflare 8y ago.io is heavily subsidized by most registrars for a couple reasons: the .io registry offers substantial volume discounts and .io domains are associated with a higher spend on add-on services. In most cases, they discount .io domains because they hope users spend more on other upsell products.
- sahin-boydas 8y agodup: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18093215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19319935 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19319935
- sahin-boydas 8y agomany more about Cloudflare Registrar https://hn.algolia.com/?query=cloudflare%20registar&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=cloudflare%20registar&sort=byP...
- dessant 8y agoNew GTLDs may cost considerably more at Cloudflare Registrar. For example, the annual cost of a .space domain during transfer is $15.18 (it was $17 two months ago), while renewal for the same domain at Namecheap costs $9.06. To be fair Namecheap lists it as a discounted offer, but that appears to be always the case for the .space TLD renewals.
- samatcloudflare 8y agoIf you can find it for $15.18 without having to buy other services, that's a deal and you should take it. Most discounts like that are offered as loss leaders in the hopes that you'll buy other add-ons.
- dessant 8y agoFor a customer it's irrelevant that the discount is a loss leader. The end result is that I can renew a .space domain for half the price at Namecheap, without having to buy other services.
- tracker1 8y agoUnderstood... personally, I'd rather pay the extra dollar or two in order to NOT have to click through promotional crap during registration. I don't know about cloudflare's process, but I'm assuming it'll likely be as clean as google's (by comparison).
- detaro 8y agopreviously (announcement): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18083641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18083641
- no1youknowz 8y agoHow long until you guys allow for Master/Sub accounts? Would be great to allow users to purchase domains for use on a platform...
- nimbius 8y agoive been using njalla for some time now with good results. Not too keen on being told what nameservers i need to use, and they do an excellent job with privacy (PGP encrypted messages and bitcoin payment for example) https://njal.la https://njal.la
- ryanlol 8y agoBut njalla isn't a registrar, they're a reseller.
- aboutruby 8y agoQuite a large list of TLDs, would be more helpful if somehow sorted by popularity too and showing which ones are not available. https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/ https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/
- billbrown 8y agoCan anyone tell if they offer privacy? I'll move all of my parked domains here in a heartbeat if that's included. (I'd move my other domains here if I could use non-Cloudflare nameservers, even temporarily. I don't want downtime or other interruption.)
- samatcloudflare 8y agoWe do - all whois information is redacted by default for every domain on Cloudflare Registrar.
- billbrown 8y agoOut of curiosity, where is that listed on your site? I promise I looked and I'd like to know what I overlooked. Thanks!
- Jerry2 8y agoDoes Cloudflare Registrar support U2F authentication yet? I don't trust any service with mission-critical stuff that doesn't have U2F. Domains are way too valuable to keep them in registrars without U2F.
- devy 8y agoJust curious, what are the domain registrars currently support U2F? Also, just to be sure U2F is an additional methods of 2FA, not the only method of 2-step, so to me having U2F is not necessarily making accessing your account securer.
- Jerry2 8y ago>Just curious, what are the domain registrars currently support U2F? Google, Amazon, Gandi (and some others I can't remember off the top of my head) support U2F. >having U2F is not necessarily making accessing your account securer. I don't agree with that at all. There are numerous cases of various 2FA methods being taken advantage of. No one has yet managed to crack U2F.
- regecks 8y agoI think devy means that you usually cannot add a U2F as the only second factor - you usually need to first add TOTP or phone number as backup. So, an attacker can just target the weaker factor and ignore U2F. I certainly had the same thought.
- AdamGibbins 8y agoThe prime thing U2F mitigates is phishing attacks. You literally cannot be phished with U2F, you try to auth against the wrong domain and you get a different secret - so they can't then pass that on the backend (i.e. the real site) and login as you. Sure your TOTP might remain, but you're not using it, so it's not liable to be taken.
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- mr_puzzled 8y agoI have domains on namecheap and would like to transfer to CF. Does the transfer process involve disabling whois, temporarily exposing my personal details to the internet?
- samatcloudflare 8y agoSome registrars will block transfers if certain types of privacy protections are enabled (or they'll require you expose your data to the public in order to give you your auth code). Namecheap can block transfers with WHOIS Guard enabled in some cases; as soon as it is transferred to Cloudflare, though, the info will be redacted.
- legohead 8y agoBeen looking to transfer my domains away from Godaddy but can't find a registrar I like that accepts .ws, which is my main domain. Cloudflare doesn't either :\
- thedangler 8y agoBe cool if I can use their API to register domains for myself or on behalf of my clients.
- OrgNet 8y agowho charges the wholesale registry fee?
- AdamGibbins 8y agoThe owners/operators of the TLD, e.g. for .com thats Verisign, for .uk thats Nominet, for .dev that's Google etc
- altano 8y agoI had a good experience moving a domain to Cloudflare, but one thing is still bugging me: To allow a third party to modify the DNS (eg pfSense dynamic DNS client) you have to use an API key that has full access to modify everything in your Cloudflare account. You can’t limit the type of operation and you can’t scope it to a domain. That’s nuts.
- nrook 8y agoBefore you register your domain with Cloudflare, please consider who their other customers are. Cloudflare today provides services for many white supremacist websites; they kicked off the Daily Stormer in 2017 after widespread criticism, but still receive money from many others. From what I can see, their senior leadership genuinely believes that, morally, they have an obligation to provide services for horrible people in exchange for money[1]. If you agree, use them! But if you think it's bad to defend these sites in an era of white nationalist terrorism, look elsewhere. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/ https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-issue-cloudflare/
- RyJones 8y agoI will make the exact opposite argument: who would trust Cloudflare as a registrar, after they dropped Daily Stormer in a fit of pique?
- foobarbazetc 8y agoMy entire issue with this is that CloudFlare hides behind some “first amendment” type nonsense, which is literally is irrelevant outside US borders. Also, being a CF customer means sharing the same serving nodes as all those “interesting” websites. Some people are fine with that, others may not be. I upvoted you since Hacker News is protective of CF for obvious reasons. I don’t see why this isn’t open for debate.
- tracker1 8y agoYou don't change peoples opinions by shutting them out, all that does is drive them deeper into their own echo chambers. It's usually a bad idea in practice. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech you don't agree with. There is no need to protect speech most people disagree with. FYI, the ACLU has also protected the same people you refer to. The problem with taking away civil liberties, is that eventually it will come down to losing your own. For example, if you want the government to shut down speech it doesn't like, what happens when opposing views are in power, and Donald Trump decides he doesn't like what YOU are saying. Do you really want to go there?
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- tareqak 8y agoI transferred one domain to Cloudflare, and I didn't have any issues. I admit that it's just one data point, but I am happy.
- foobarbazetc 8y agoThe major issue with this is that the transferred domain must use CloudFlare NS and be on the platform. Really not worth the lock-in for like $1/year you save off other places.
- ksec 8y agoAny timeline they actually allow Registration of New Domain. Or do they expect us to register somewhere else and do the transfer?
- tracker1 8y agoWhile I'd love to switch, I switched to google's a couple years ago, and the killer feature for me, is free mail forwarding with the domain (no mail server setup). I've got a bunch of domains I don't really use anymore, but want to be able to receive the mail for a couple addresses. May consider moving most of my domains over all the same though.
- Ayesh 8y agoThis has made news a few times but I will not use them for my domains. It's been a few months since launch, but I still can't use my own nameservers for the domains. While the registry-pricing can often workout cheaper, some registrars negotiate nicer deals with the registry. I have a .me domain for 8 years that I never paid the registry standard price, it has always been sent discounted rate.
- nikolay 8y agoThey don't support even .us, which is a pity. When I start a new project, I register with another registrar and wait 60 days to move it to Cloudflare - what a nonsense! NameBright has similar pricing - for .com at least.