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Why would any of that be relevant?
by jakeogh 8y ago
Why would any of that be relevant?
- Scoundreller 8y agoBecause the same things that confuse humans can confuse computers that are largely trained with human data.
- sgt101 8y agoUpsetting as it is, it also turns out that different things also confuse the computers. Sometimes unexpectedly and suddenly.
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- dymk 8y agoMillions of drivers per year use roads like this in California and Washington. They’re not very confusing for a human driver who’s paying attention.
- Scoundreller 8y agoI’m from Toronto, so I never underestimate drivers’ ability to do stupid like drive into streetcar-only tunnels past the end of the ashphalt, despite ample signage. 26 times. https://torontolife.com/city/queens-quay-streetcar-tunnel-drivers-event/ https://torontolife.com/city/queens-quay-streetcar-tunnel-dr...
- BoorishBears 8y agoHow many hundreds of thousands of cars for those 26 to make that mistake? Now imagine if every Toyota did this instead? FSD is being touted as a "force multiplier" for safe driving, but it could end up being a force multiplier for deadly mistakes
- Scoundreller 8y agoFew care about the 26 that missed the signs. It’s the multi-hour shutdown of the city’s 3rd busiest transit route that connects to the continent’s 3rd busiest train station that impacts a lot of people.
- smileysteve 8y agoI'd like to see the data behind this statement. I highly doubt that the "roads like this" see zero accidents. Based off of guard rail end cap lawsuits alone, it seems that humans many times get confused even when driving straight on a highway; whether they are paying attention is another question, if it's relevant at all.
- muzika 8y agoIncreasingly, cities will be expected to plan roads in a way that would be simpler for autonomous vehicles to bavigate.
- Scoundreller 8y agoAnd humans. If two lanes in the default path of highway driving (stay left to continue) are closed half the day, I’d expect some blinking sign overhead saying “two left lanes closed ahead, stay right”. I guess DOT would have the records of people making the mistake to know if there’s enough value from implementing another signal for what you’ll have to do up ahead. Dunno if Tesla reads signs or not (or used scanned signs to navigate), but seems like a useful thing for humans that could assist machines. But maybe I’m just spoiled by my jurisdiction’s electronic signs that say this kind of thing.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y agoWow. Where I'm currently at they'll put up "left lane closed signs" and you don't know if it's the left lane, the right lane, or neither, that's actually closed until you get there.
- jakeogh 8y agoThe SDC concept vastly underestimates the processing power of wetware. The tendencies to view humans as the bugs and to add rules to make reality more predictable are just excuses to avoid the real issue.