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> this one person who is being charged allegedly mirrored the live stream during the event, cheered it on in his comments, and may have posted inciting material
by ng12 8y ago
> this one person who is being charged allegedly mirrored the live stream during the event, cheered it on in his comments, and may have posted inciting materials prior to the attack
Why does that factor in? New Zealand has (or had?) pretty strong protection for freedom of expression and freedom of speech.
- erentz 8y agoIt might be inferred that the Police suspect this person knew of the attack or was in some way involved, and are using this route to prosecute and/or pressure the person. That doesn't necessarily make it okay, but obviously a lot of Kiwi's have downloaded and shared and watched this video, but this is the only case I know of where someone was arrested for it.
- Taniwha 8y agoIt's possible, he did make a couple of presaging posts in the days before the terrorist act ... however the charge he's being held on at the moment is publishing the terrorist's snuff film
- Nition 8y agoIt seems like the guy was arrested for more than just posting the video, potentially a lot more. Particularly this part: > A second charge alleges that between the 8th and the 15th of March, he showed a photograph of the Deans Avenue mosque with the message “target acquired” and further chat messaging around inciting extreme violence constituting one of the offences.[1] The 15th is the day of the attack, so as the grandparent comment said, it's unclear if he posted the image in advance of the attack, but it all sounds pretty dodgy. [1] https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/18yo-in-court-over-sharing-footage-of-christchurch-terror-attack.html https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2019/03/18yo-in-c...
- lancewiggs 8y agoFreedom of speech is not freedom to incite hate/violence or to distribute obscene content.
- ng12 8y agoObjectively it is. By definition if you make hate speech illegal you're limiting freedom of speech.
- amanaplanacanal 8y agoI don't know if there is any place on earth that has freedom of speech by that definition. It pretty much comes down to what types of speech are made illegal in each country.
- zapzupnz 8y agoFreedom of speech applies to not being oppressed for saying something in contradiction with the values of the current government. In no way does New Zealand's concept of freedom of speech, nor any other country's, give carte blanche to any message, there are always parameters. These parameters are defined by each country to assure the well-being and peace assured to its citizens and residents, so naturally hate speech isn't tolerated.
- yarg 8y agoWe don't actually - the bill of rights is completely toothless.