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Are you currently selling your unused possessions on Craigslist? That camping gear or extra set of kitchenware? By not selling your things, you are making those

Are you currently selling your unused possessions on Craigslist? That camping gear or extra set of kitchenware? By not selling your things, you are making those things more expensive for everyone else. Therefore, you are creating a negative externality by not selling your things, and storing unused property in your garage and basement should be illegal. What you are describing is not an “externality” in the way that economists use that term.

xenadu02 8y ago
People need homes to live. Shelter is essential in the way very few things are.
- cycrutchfield 8y ago
  How about you start paying fines for all that unused food in your pantry?
  - alanlamm 8y ago
    Yes, or even better, for all that surplus lard on your body!
  - baroffoos 8y ago
    If there was some financial incentive to buy food and leave it to rot and this was causing a food shortage then yes, that is a sound idea.
Dylan16807 8y ago
Land in a developed area is in very limited supply, it's necessary to make the economy function, and most of the owners are speculating on the price going up. Kitchenware doesn't work that way. Almost nothing else works that way. Owning central land and not using it means that millions of people have to go further to get to their destinations. It also means that construction effort and money is going into a black hole and not turning into supply. Enough of this together makes a powerful negative externality.
- dehrmann 8y ago
  > Land in a developed area is in very limited supply Because of high rises and land reclamation, this is a lot less true than you'd think.
  - Dylan16807 8y ago
    The zoning has to allow for building up before that counts.
    - cycrutchfield 8y ago
      And thus you have arrived at the central issue here.
spoondan 8y ago
The ability to apply the same argument to another situation has no probative value. Any policy has its pros and cons. One can support vacancy taxes/fines without supporting other taxes on unused possessions.
brandonmenc 8y ago
> Are you currently selling your unused possessions on Craigslist? That camping gear or extra set of kitchenware? Can you create new land? No. They are completely different things.
- cycrutchfield 8y ago
  You can create a lot of housing out of a fixed amount of land. All you have to do is allow developers to build up.

xenadu02 8y ago

People need homes to live. Shelter is essential in the way very few things are.

cycrutchfield 8y ago
How about you start paying fines for all that unused food in your pantry?
- alanlamm 8y ago
  Yes, or even better, for all that surplus lard on your body!
- baroffoos 8y ago
  If there was some financial incentive to buy food and leave it to rot and this was causing a food shortage then yes, that is a sound idea.

Dylan16807 8y ago

Land in a developed area is in very limited supply, it's necessary to make the economy function, and most of the owners are speculating on the price going up. Kitchenware doesn't work that way. Almost nothing else works that way. Owning central land and not using it means that millions of people have to go further to get to their destinations. It also means that construction effort and money is going into a black hole and not turning into supply. Enough of this together makes a powerful negative externality.

dehrmann 8y ago
> Land in a developed area is in very limited supply Because of high rises and land reclamation, this is a lot less true than you'd think.
- Dylan16807 8y ago
  The zoning has to allow for building up before that counts.
  - cycrutchfield 8y ago
    And thus you have arrived at the central issue here.

spoondan 8y ago

The ability to apply the same argument to another situation has no probative value. Any policy has its pros and cons. One can support vacancy taxes/fines without supporting other taxes on unused possessions.

brandonmenc 8y ago

> Are you currently selling your unused possessions on Craigslist? That camping gear or extra set of kitchenware? Can you create new land? No. They are completely different things.

cycrutchfield 8y ago
You can create a lot of housing out of a fixed amount of land. All you have to do is allow developers to build up.