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This is something that I'd try if it wasn't cost prohibited. But no, I'm stuck on benzos forever. At least they are cheap and they work OK I suppose.

linuxdude314 8y ago
As someone who has gone down that road (and managed to get off), I can't emphasize enough how important it is to not take those drugs forever. It simply isn't possible, at some point your tolerance will become so high you will be forced to find something else. The withdrawals from benzodiazapenes are some of the worst of any drug and will require medical intervention in order to keep your seizure threshold properly regulated. The Ashton Method has worked miracles for many including myself. https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm It is hard to find a doctor who will support you with that treatment, but I went through it and am successfully benzo free now.
- mnm1 8y ago
  Couldn't agree more. The withdrawl severity very much depends on the person and if tapered slowly, it's not bad (it wasn't for me). Cannabis can help there temporarily also. Benzos are awful after awhile due to tolerance and mostly the negative effects persisting.
- stordoff 8y ago
  I don't want to downplay it too much (I've seen my grandmother go through benzodiazapine withdrawal, and it took the best part of a year IIRC), but I would add withdrawal is highly personal. I've quit drugs that I was told (by my consultant) that would be "worse than quitting heroin" and stopped cold turkey, and didn't feel a thing. I also now take regularly take benzodiazapines, and can stop taking them during good periods without any noticeable effects (which has the bonus of limiting my tolerance increase).
Uhhrrr 8y ago
"cost prohibitive"
- hello_tyler 8y ago
  You're correct, typo.
krrrh 8y ago
There are doctors around the US that do Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy for much lower prices. There is a big study about to be published looking at hundreds of successfully treated cases. Keep looking, and good luck. The J+J spray is a scam, but it does establish the treatments being done off-label with regular ketamine as safe and should give hem some level of additional protection.
Scoundreller 8y ago
A compounding pharmacy can make up capsules. It doesn’t have great bioavailability, but tons of drugs are like that, and resolved with higher doses. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3120058/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3120058/
orasis 8y ago
Treatments with regular IV ketamine is not that expensive. Shop around.

linuxdude314 8y ago

As someone who has gone down that road (and managed to get off), I can't emphasize enough how important it is to not take those drugs forever. It simply isn't possible, at some point your tolerance will become so high you will be forced to find something else. The withdrawals from benzodiazapenes are some of the worst of any drug and will require medical intervention in order to keep your seizure threshold properly regulated. The Ashton Method has worked miracles for many including myself. https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm It is hard to find a doctor who will support you with that treatment, but I went through it and am successfully benzo free now.

mnm1 8y ago
Couldn't agree more. The withdrawl severity very much depends on the person and if tapered slowly, it's not bad (it wasn't for me). Cannabis can help there temporarily also. Benzos are awful after awhile due to tolerance and mostly the negative effects persisting.
stordoff 8y ago
I don't want to downplay it too much (I've seen my grandmother go through benzodiazapine withdrawal, and it took the best part of a year IIRC), but I would add withdrawal is highly personal. I've quit drugs that I was told (by my consultant) that would be "worse than quitting heroin" and stopped cold turkey, and didn't feel a thing. I also now take regularly take benzodiazapines, and can stop taking them during good periods without any noticeable effects (which has the bonus of limiting my tolerance increase).

Uhhrrr 8y ago

"cost prohibitive"

hello_tyler 8y ago
You're correct, typo.

krrrh 8y ago

There are doctors around the US that do Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy for much lower prices. There is a big study about to be published looking at hundreds of successfully treated cases. Keep looking, and good luck. The J+J spray is a scam, but it does establish the treatments being done off-label with regular ketamine as safe and should give hem some level of additional protection.

Scoundreller 8y ago

A compounding pharmacy can make up capsules. It doesn’t have great bioavailability, but tons of drugs are like that, and resolved with higher doses. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3120058/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3120058/

orasis 8y ago

Treatments with regular IV ketamine is not that expensive. Shop around.