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Isn't this basically what Pinterest is doing? All their images are stolen from elsewhere on the web (and the website behaves extremely obnoxiously when you try
by dTal 8y ago
Isn't this basically what Pinterest is doing? All their images are stolen from elsewhere on the web (and the website behaves extremely obnoxiously when you try to actually view an image without an account), and yet Pinterest results consistently rank higher than the actual primary sources of the stolen images.
- dawnerd 8y agoI'm surprised they've made it this long. They shut us (eHow/Demand Media) down pretty quickly once we hit a certain point. Image search needs its own panda update. Also part of the problem is Google no longer direct links to images so now sites are fully taking advantage of it.
- Something1234 8y agoPinterest is the absolute worst. They're basically plargists at this point. I really don't like rehosters.
- nullc 8y agoI've just blocked them on my host... too many times have I fallen down a well of trying to find the origin of some image there. It's just not worth it.
- nightfly 8y agoI've had the same problem... It's super frustrating because sometimes an image on Pinterest is _exactly_ what you're looking for, but you need the related context to actually use it...
- armagon 8y agoTinEye reverse image search is fairly useful in this scenario. Go to https://tineye.com/ https://tineye.com/ , upload an image (or paste in a URL), and it'll show you other copies of that image all over the internet. This doesn't always help you get to the bottom of things, but it is a next step to take.
- nullc 8y agoI've never had that work for a Pinterest image that was giving me trouble.
- l33tbro 8y agoI don't understand how they haven't been penalized.
- Jerry2 8y agoThey probably have some kind of a deal with Google. Same kind of a deal that LinkedIn has with Google... you can't view most of the LinkedIn profile pages that Google indexes without being logged in. If I served a different page to Google's search bot from pages that everyone else can see, I'd be banned from Google's index. But these big companies have special rules...
- JonathanMerklin 8y agoCurrently I'm not near my computer to verify myself (I am on my phone, before bed), but can you get into walled-but-indexed LinkedIn/Pinterest content with "Googlebot" UA spoofing? I'd want to assume that their systems are more advanced than that (or if they're really in cahoots, maybe Google crawls them with a unique, secret bot UA to prevent this sort of thing), but I just got done with another thread where an ex-Tumblr dev said all user content was in a single S3 bucket without MFA delete so my gut feeling is lending a bit more weight to the "everything is held together with rubber bands and duct tape and it's only a matter of time before the jig is up" parameter than the "large, powerful companies tend to hire smart people that communicate and design robust systems effectively" one.
- oarsinsync 8y agoBased on my experience in the nautical industry, where most things were quite literally held together using velcro, metaphorical rubber bands and duct tape seems quite likely for relatively younger web industries.
- dageshi 8y agoYou might look at pinterest as a giant image classification system, essentially adding more meta data to images for free. That's perhaps the kind of thing google would find quite useful.
- fredguth 8y agoWhy is Pinterest plagiarist and Google is not? From your text it seems that Google owned that images in the first place.
- jackyinger 8y agoThe distinction is that Google (usually) is a useful tool; you can get to the source of the image from it. It’s less about plagiarism, more about a dead end vs. a stepping stone.
- danpalmer 8y agoIs Pinterest not a useful tool? I would say that it probably generates a lot of value for its hundreds of millions of users, and that value does not come from the source of the image, but of the image itself, and its relation to other similar images.
- thatoneuser 8y agoIt's not one bit useful for people busy searching an image that they SEO their way above other images, only to be met with a login wall I'm not gonna fill out.
- dazc 8y agoPinterest is useful for the purpose you describe but what seems to have happened is they are dominating organic search for images in contravention of google's own guidelines. All things being equal, Pinterest should have been penalised into non-existence by now?
- dplgk 8y ago"please register so you can see the original image at 10% of its size with no link to the original site!" How is this legal?
- gruez 8y agoIt's not, but since copyright infringement is a civil infraction, not a criminal one, it's up to the victim to sue.
- DanBC 8y agoIn some places copyright infringement done as as part of trade makes it a criminal offence. If these sites are offering paid registration, or are including advertising, they may be committing a criminal offence in some regions.
- Mr_P 8y agoThis happened last year: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after-google-removes-view-image-button-bowing-to-getty/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after...
- Jaruzel 8y agoOn desktop browsers, right click on the preview and 'View Image...' tends to get you the original full sized image.
- sparkling 8y agoWorks sometimes, but not everystime.
- SturgeonsLaw 8y agoThere's a browser extension that brings back the old View Image button for anyone who misses that feature https://github.com/bijij/ViewImage https://github.com/bijij/ViewImage
- theartfuldodger 8y agoPinterest should not even be allowed to display in google images, they force an app download in mobile then default hit you with nonsense notifications. Similar deal in desktop. Google should get better at cataloging pinterest and stock photos in images, both break the normal rules for websites displaying in traditional search. A recent googler ama pointed out increased improvements in google images, i hope that includes crushing this nonsense.
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- askvictor 8y agoThere is a Chrome Extension called Unpinterested which removes pinterest from Google Search results.
- dmix 8y agohttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unpinterested/gefaihkenmchjmcpcbpdijpoknfjpbfe https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unpinterested/gefa... Edit: weird, it just adds "-site:pinterest.*" to all of your google searches. Even non-image searches. That's a very heavy handed approach. Uninstalling.
- loktarogar 8y agowhy would you ever want pinterest results, image search or not?
- xbmcuser 8y agoGoogle has it's own plugin that you can use to block results from search. I have been using it to block Facebook and a few other websites for years https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist-by-goo/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/personal-blocklist...
- askvictor 8y agoUnfortunately it doesn't actually seem to work reliably (certainly not for Pinterest), which is why this and other such extensions exist.
- skilled 8y agoThe whole Pinterest thing grinds my gears so much. It shows complete incompetence from Google as they let this kind of bullshit slide. Not to mention that Pinterest doesn't let you see the actual image without signing up. Like, seriously?
- cy6erlion 8y agoPinterest allows you to create an account by using google account, I suspect that google gets a few users from them thats why they allow it