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I penalize people slightly for an empty GitHub if they put it on their resume, just out of annoyance. Why did you put this url for me to follow if there's nothi

I penalize people slightly for an empty GitHub if they put it on their resume, just out of annoyance. Why did you put this url for me to follow if there's nothing here but a half started React tutorial from 3 years ago?

ncallaway 8y ago
Agree on this. If you don't have a useful GitHub portfolio that's fine. But anything on your resume or linked from your resume is fair game. If you haven't been able to meaningfully participate in open-source work there's no penalty, but don't link to an empty GitHub page on your resume.
stefkors 8y ago
So many places seem to require a github profile in their form.
- eponeponepon 8y ago
  There is never anything wrong with writing "n/a" in any kind of form. There was a long overlap during which any form that took contact details already had fields for email address and mobile phone number, but before either of those were as ubiquitous as they are today; nobody processing those forms ever ignored one with "n/a" for email address. Granted, it might be less prudent to skip some fields than others, of course.
  - dep_b 8y ago
    "error: n/a is not a valid URL"
    - parthdesai 8y ago
      how about www.idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com
      - vbezhenar 8y ago
        URL must start from https://github.com/ https://github.com/
        ronilan 8y ago
        Use this: https://github.com/idonthaveaninterestinggithub https://github.com/idonthaveaninterestinggithub
        11235813213455 8y ago
        But it's empty! You'll get penalized
        1123581321 8y ago
        Nice username.
        avip 8y ago
        Good job. All projects vacuously have clean READMEs and concise commit history.
        reificator 8y ago
        https://github.com/IUseGitlab/ItHasDockerBasedCi/AndBetterIssueBoards.git https://github.com/IUseGitlab/ItHasDockerBasedCi/AndBetterIs...
      - avip 8y ago
        Seems https://idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com https://idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com is up now
    - josephorjoe 8y ago
      Disable their client side validations and find out if they bothered with server side validations...
    - zinckiwi 8y ago
      n://a?
gregmac 8y ago
Yeah, this is just like any other thing you call out by putting on your resume. Nobody is a expert in everything, of course, but if you specifically put "TCP/IP" or "OOP" on your resume, you better be able to explain TCP vs UDP or class vs interface (both real examples from real phone screens I've done).
- PopeDotNinja 8y ago
  As a former recruiter, I just assume all resumes are complete shit. I never saw much of a correlation between a quality resume and a quality candidate. Screening for the stuff one uses on the job is what I prefer to do. It's also nice to focus on the job requirements, too, because it removes any need for someone to impress me with what the have done. When you can walk into an interview with "hey, I really want you to get this job, but we need to find a way for both of us to envision a scenario in which we're working together successfully", it's amazing how well that usually turns out.
  - blazespin 8y ago
    Agreed, I think a resume with just yoe, last 10 years of companies worked at/positions/years, education, and 4 our 5 technologies/areas currently interested in working on is enough. You could probably drop education from it if you have 5 or more yoe. Frankly you could do this in one 5 or 6 line paragraph without a resume I never read them anymore. It’s such a waste of time. Totally useless compared to our phone screen templates.
- sl1ck731 8y ago
  If recruiting software didn't penalize for keywords I think it would be less of an issue. Its a struggle trying to figure out what to put in the "list of technologies" type section. I have to put them somewhere to get past crappy HR screening software since explaining every tech in a job description would create paragraphs but just listing it doesn't represent the level of aptitude. For example, I might use Chef daily. If I put it in a list of other tools I use it can mean I know how to use it for my very specific use case, but usually it is taken as "this guy thinks he contributes to the Chef source code and knows every bizarre scenario involving it" by some tech screener trying to get his rocks off. I 100% blame every tech recruiter for furthering this mess.
alchemism 8y ago
In the rare case that they have an empty GitHub, save for a fork of https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode, I hire them immediately.

ncallaway 8y ago

Agree on this. If you don't have a useful GitHub portfolio that's fine. But anything on your resume or linked from your resume is fair game. If you haven't been able to meaningfully participate in open-source work there's no penalty, but don't link to an empty GitHub page on your resume.

stefkors 8y ago

So many places seem to require a github profile in their form.

eponeponepon 8y ago
There is never anything wrong with writing "n/a" in any kind of form. There was a long overlap during which any form that took contact details already had fields for email address and mobile phone number, but before either of those were as ubiquitous as they are today; nobody processing those forms ever ignored one with "n/a" for email address. Granted, it might be less prudent to skip some fields than others, of course.
- dep_b 8y ago
  "error: n/a is not a valid URL"
  - parthdesai 8y ago
    how about www.idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com
    - vbezhenar 8y ago
      URL must start from https://github.com/ https://github.com/
      - ronilan 8y ago
        Use this: https://github.com/idonthaveaninterestinggithub https://github.com/idonthaveaninterestinggithub
        11235813213455 8y ago
        But it's empty! You'll get penalized
        1123581321 8y ago
        Nice username.
        avip 8y ago
        Good job. All projects vacuously have clean READMEs and concise commit history.
      - reificator 8y ago
        https://github.com/IUseGitlab/ItHasDockerBasedCi/AndBetterIssueBoards.git https://github.com/IUseGitlab/ItHasDockerBasedCi/AndBetterIs...
    - avip 8y ago
      Seems https://idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com https://idonthaveaninterestinggithub.com is up now
  - josephorjoe 8y ago
    Disable their client side validations and find out if they bothered with server side validations...
  - zinckiwi 8y ago
    n://a?

gregmac 8y ago

Yeah, this is just like any other thing you call out by putting on your resume. Nobody is a expert in everything, of course, but if you specifically put "TCP/IP" or "OOP" on your resume, you better be able to explain TCP vs UDP or class vs interface (both real examples from real phone screens I've done).

PopeDotNinja 8y ago
As a former recruiter, I just assume all resumes are complete shit. I never saw much of a correlation between a quality resume and a quality candidate. Screening for the stuff one uses on the job is what I prefer to do. It's also nice to focus on the job requirements, too, because it removes any need for someone to impress me with what the have done. When you can walk into an interview with "hey, I really want you to get this job, but we need to find a way for both of us to envision a scenario in which we're working together successfully", it's amazing how well that usually turns out.
- blazespin 8y ago
  Agreed, I think a resume with just yoe, last 10 years of companies worked at/positions/years, education, and 4 our 5 technologies/areas currently interested in working on is enough. You could probably drop education from it if you have 5 or more yoe. Frankly you could do this in one 5 or 6 line paragraph without a resume I never read them anymore. It’s such a waste of time. Totally useless compared to our phone screen templates.
sl1ck731 8y ago
If recruiting software didn't penalize for keywords I think it would be less of an issue. Its a struggle trying to figure out what to put in the "list of technologies" type section. I have to put them somewhere to get past crappy HR screening software since explaining every tech in a job description would create paragraphs but just listing it doesn't represent the level of aptitude. For example, I might use Chef daily. If I put it in a list of other tools I use it can mean I know how to use it for my very specific use case, but usually it is taken as "this guy thinks he contributes to the Chef source code and knows every bizarre scenario involving it" by some tech screener trying to get his rocks off. I 100% blame every tech recruiter for furthering this mess.

alchemism 8y ago

In the rare case that they have an empty GitHub, save for a fork of https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode, I hire them immediately.