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You don't buy the new ones. You buy at latest an X230 and put Linux or BSD on it. All the excitement around 51nb is that you can upgrade to modern hardware if

You don't buy the new ones. You buy at latest an X230 and put Linux or BSD on it. All the excitement around 51nb is that you can upgrade to modern hardware if you think the X220 is the last good notebook ever commercially produced. A lot of people (disclaimer: including me) think that, which is why you see them as targets for things like OpenBSD and Libreboot. But you're right, I would never buy a "modern" Lenovo though. But in fairness, I don't know that I'd buy a modern notebook at all.

intrasight 8y ago
I have an x220 on a shelf somewhere. You've convinced me to give it another look - or to sell it someone that would want to.
VvR-Ox 8y ago
Still using the x220 as my every day personal notebook. At work I have the x230 with the new keyboard - it's not as good as the old one still in the x220 but it's way better than let's say the new macbook keyboards. The sad thing is that the x220 doesn't compete doing stuff with many VM's or consumer things like videos with high-res. But I can totally live with that and use it for everything else with the following specs & setup: - 16GB RAM - 256GB SSD - i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz - extended battery (good for holding it while carrying around) - i3wm (it's awesome how much you can do with few resources) - programming/writing etc. with VIM (also saves a lot compared to an eclipse/intellij) It's definitely not the PC you want a full fledged desktop environment on and you shouldn't bother doing video stuff etc. but for everything else it's just perfect and I wouldn't want to give it away as long as I can. The x230 is ok but I don't have so much love for it, can't explain what exactly I miss most but it's not the TP experience I was searching for all the years. My next project is an old x200 that will be refurbished and put to test with some BSD OS (I heard it's also quite interesting and easy on old hardware). P.S.: The trackpads suck hell and I only use the red nub on TPs. The only trackpad I ever found useful was on a MBP (some time around 2016 I think) but they managed to destroy that experience like they did with their crappy keyboards :-P

intrasight 8y ago

I have an x220 on a shelf somewhere. You've convinced me to give it another look - or to sell it someone that would want to.

VvR-Ox 8y ago

Still using the x220 as my every day personal notebook. At work I have the x230 with the new keyboard - it's not as good as the old one still in the x220 but it's way better than let's say the new macbook keyboards. The sad thing is that the x220 doesn't compete doing stuff with many VM's or consumer things like videos with high-res. But I can totally live with that and use it for everything else with the following specs & setup: - 16GB RAM - 256GB SSD - i5-2540M CPU @ 2.60GHz - extended battery (good for holding it while carrying around) - i3wm (it's awesome how much you can do with few resources) - programming/writing etc. with VIM (also saves a lot compared to an eclipse/intellij) It's definitely not the PC you want a full fledged desktop environment on and you shouldn't bother doing video stuff etc. but for everything else it's just perfect and I wouldn't want to give it away as long as I can. The x230 is ok but I don't have so much love for it, can't explain what exactly I miss most but it's not the TP experience I was searching for all the years. My next project is an old x200 that will be refurbished and put to test with some BSD OS (I heard it's also quite interesting and easy on old hardware). P.S.: The trackpads suck hell and I only use the red nub on TPs. The only trackpad I ever found useful was on a MBP (some time around 2016 I think) but they managed to destroy that experience like they did with their crappy keyboards :-P