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Just because you renounced you previous citizenship in the US, doesn't mean you lost it. Uruguayan law says you retain your citizenship even if you renounce it

Just because you renounced you previous citizenship in the US, doesn't mean you lost it. Uruguayan law says you retain your citizenship even if you renounce it in order to obtain another. Brazilian law, OTH, says you lose it if you voluntarily obtain another, even if you don't renounce.

wenc 8y ago
> Uruguayan law says you retain your citizenship even if you renounce it in order to obtain another. Not sure I understand this. When you renounce a citizenship, you file renunciation papers with the government of the country in question. If you are abroad, you do it with the embassy if that country. Renunciation is a explicit, unambiguous legally binding step recognized by the country in question. Once approved, you lose that citizenship. How does one still retain citizenship, assuming the renunciation succeeds? Unless you’re talking about assumed loss of citizenship by taking on another citizenship?
- forinti 8y ago
  AFAIK, when you become a US citizen, you take an oath or sign something stating that you renounce all other allegiances. It doesn't mean you have to communicate your previous country. Brazil, for instance, rarely does anything about it. The only case I know of is of a woman who returned to Brazil after being wanted for murder. The supreme court then ruled that she had lost her Brazilian citizenship and handed her over to the US (which they would not do were she Brazilian still).
  - wenc 8y ago
    Oh I see what you mean. Yes, the US thing technically that doesn’t fall under the legal meaning of renunciation. One country’s laws isn’t recognized by another country’s which is why there are loopholes that can be exploited in multiple citizenships, and may also be why people get into trouble if they don’t understand the rights and responsibilities of their citizenship. As someone who once held multiple citizenships, I’ve learned that the only laws that count with respect to citizenship are the laws of the country of citizenship (principle of sovereignty). Whether they enforce it or not is another question, but no laws of another country apply to citizenship of a given country.
  - Scoundreller 8y ago
    I’ve heard some comical examples in the past where the new country takes your old passport, and then your old country promptly sends it right back to you since it’s still valid.

wenc 8y ago

> Uruguayan law says you retain your citizenship even if you renounce it in order to obtain another. Not sure I understand this. When you renounce a citizenship, you file renunciation papers with the government of the country in question. If you are abroad, you do it with the embassy if that country. Renunciation is a explicit, unambiguous legally binding step recognized by the country in question. Once approved, you lose that citizenship. How does one still retain citizenship, assuming the renunciation succeeds? Unless you’re talking about assumed loss of citizenship by taking on another citizenship?

forinti 8y ago
AFAIK, when you become a US citizen, you take an oath or sign something stating that you renounce all other allegiances. It doesn't mean you have to communicate your previous country. Brazil, for instance, rarely does anything about it. The only case I know of is of a woman who returned to Brazil after being wanted for murder. The supreme court then ruled that she had lost her Brazilian citizenship and handed her over to the US (which they would not do were she Brazilian still).
- wenc 8y ago
  Oh I see what you mean. Yes, the US thing technically that doesn’t fall under the legal meaning of renunciation. One country’s laws isn’t recognized by another country’s which is why there are loopholes that can be exploited in multiple citizenships, and may also be why people get into trouble if they don’t understand the rights and responsibilities of their citizenship. As someone who once held multiple citizenships, I’ve learned that the only laws that count with respect to citizenship are the laws of the country of citizenship (principle of sovereignty). Whether they enforce it or not is another question, but no laws of another country apply to citizenship of a given country.
- Scoundreller 8y ago
  I’ve heard some comical examples in the past where the new country takes your old passport, and then your old country promptly sends it right back to you since it’s still valid.