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There’s only so many NSA PowerPoint you can publish from Snowden before people become bored.

by influx 8y ago

boomskats 8y ago
Journalism is supposed to be a cure for boredom?
- krapp 8y ago
  Modern journalism is entertainment. Bored readers/viewers/listeners will turn their attention elsewhere.
  - fwsgonzo 8y ago
    It's unfortunately true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_journalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_journalism Investigative journalism is in sharp decline. It really has all but disappeared to most people.
  - chiefalchemist 8y ago
    So a race to the bottom then? In any case, that definition is too Orwellian. That is, today's entertainment should not be passed off as journalism; by definition it is not (journalism). Not to sound harsh, but that's the equivalent of calling op-ed news; Taco Bell fine dining; or an elected official leadership. We can't allow the wrong words to be used (and the right ones abused) and expect to get the downstream discussions right.
    - sodosopa 8y ago
      > but that's the equivalent of calling op-ed news; Taco Bell fine dining; or an elected official leadership. (edit, kinda off topic but related to calling op-eds news) Gannett allows their advertisers to run light promotional articles as op-eds. It's disgusting, ads made to look like a true opinion piece. Read your local Gannett site, look at the local paper's op-ed. Look for articles ghost written by Physicians, CEOs, lawyers that talk about community. No notice aside from a brief mention of the employer of the person in the Story Highlights.
- IshKebab 8y ago
  Well, yes? People don't read The Boring News do they? "Today in The Boring News, a pencil manufacturer produced its 4 millionth pencil. It was yellow. Also, it rained yesterday."
  - wj 8y ago
    You just described the local evening news. I wonder why anyone tunes in outside of being unable to find their remote to change the station.
    - sodosopa 8y ago
      The ratings are moving away from boring local TV news too. The audience is shrinking and moving to online sources. Local evening news is mainly controlled by the corporate owners, some news gets through but it's primarily a showcase for 3-4 stories from around larger markets.
fwsgonzo 8y ago
Very reductive view of the last bastion of investigative journalism
- exo762 8y ago
  OCCRP?
  - sodosopa 8y ago
    Shhh. Apparently people don't like to hear about an ethical group of investigative journalists. They only want to focus on the ones tied to Assange.
- smt88 8y ago
  ProPublica (also non-profit) and many individual journalists, like Ronan Farrow, are still doing great investigative work.
- jacksproit 8y ago
  Last? https://www.icij.org https://www.icij.org

There’s only so many NSA PowerPoint you can publish from Snowden before people become bored.

by influx 8y ago

There’s only so many NSA PowerPoint you can publish from Snowden before people become bored.

boomskats 8y ago

Journalism is supposed to be a cure for boredom?

krapp 8y ago
Modern journalism is entertainment. Bored readers/viewers/listeners will turn their attention elsewhere.
- fwsgonzo 8y ago
  It's unfortunately true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_journalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigative_journalism Investigative journalism is in sharp decline. It really has all but disappeared to most people.
- chiefalchemist 8y ago
  So a race to the bottom then? In any case, that definition is too Orwellian. That is, today's entertainment should not be passed off as journalism; by definition it is not (journalism). Not to sound harsh, but that's the equivalent of calling op-ed news; Taco Bell fine dining; or an elected official leadership. We can't allow the wrong words to be used (and the right ones abused) and expect to get the downstream discussions right.
  - sodosopa 8y ago
    > but that's the equivalent of calling op-ed news; Taco Bell fine dining; or an elected official leadership. (edit, kinda off topic but related to calling op-eds news) Gannett allows their advertisers to run light promotional articles as op-eds. It's disgusting, ads made to look like a true opinion piece. Read your local Gannett site, look at the local paper's op-ed. Look for articles ghost written by Physicians, CEOs, lawyers that talk about community. No notice aside from a brief mention of the employer of the person in the Story Highlights.
IshKebab 8y ago
Well, yes? People don't read The Boring News do they? "Today in The Boring News, a pencil manufacturer produced its 4 millionth pencil. It was yellow. Also, it rained yesterday."
- wj 8y ago
  You just described the local evening news. I wonder why anyone tunes in outside of being unable to find their remote to change the station.
  - sodosopa 8y ago
    The ratings are moving away from boring local TV news too. The audience is shrinking and moving to online sources. Local evening news is mainly controlled by the corporate owners, some news gets through but it's primarily a showcase for 3-4 stories from around larger markets.

fwsgonzo 8y ago

Very reductive view of the last bastion of investigative journalism

exo762 8y ago
OCCRP?
- sodosopa 8y ago
  Shhh. Apparently people don't like to hear about an ethical group of investigative journalists. They only want to focus on the ones tied to Assange.
smt88 8y ago
ProPublica (also non-profit) and many individual journalists, like Ronan Farrow, are still doing great investigative work.
jacksproit 8y ago
Last? https://www.icij.org https://www.icij.org