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I guess what bothers me the most about the original tweet(s) is the false dichotomy of "build your own datacenter" or "use AWS". How about co-locating at one o
by lunchables 8y ago
I guess what bothers me the most about the original tweet(s) is the false dichotomy of "build your own datacenter" or "use AWS". How about co-locating at one of the many, many Tier 3 certified datacenters all over the world? There are tons of providers with locations all over the country and world. Or beyond that, what about letting someone else (e.g. Compass Data Centers) build a datacenter for you?
- tetha 8y agoVery true. For example, we're running most of our log aggregation and time series handling on rented dedicated servers. It took more work and skill to get to work compared to something like AWS elasticsearch, but the setup is dirt-cheap for what it does including redundancy in case of hardware failures. Or, my last employer used to run a lot of their data warehousing and BI on rented physical systems for similar reasons - high IO demand, built-in redundancy. There are many steps you can take before buying concrete to build a DC. Even before you have to buy your own rack.
- LapaluxToday 8y agoWhat do you use for your log aggregation and time series?
- tetha 8y agoWe run a fairly classical elastic stack for our log aggregation and telegraf/influxdb for time series. And grafana/kibana pulling it all together.
- lunchables 8y agoThank you, that was my point exactly. There are lots of options between "do nothing" (AWS) and "do everything" (literally build datacenters).
- scarface74 8y agoSo use a bunch of tier 3 providers. Who is going to coordinate all of this? With AWS you have one company to call.
- Dylan16807 8y agoThe guy you pay with the millions of dollars saved.
- scarface74 8y agoAnd to build a ride sharing company. First Lyft should have built an expertise in infrastructure? Should they also learn how to build cars to because it might save them money in the long run?
- buboard 8y agoi ve asked this before. Lyft doesnt own cars, drivers , servers, and it even outsources its software. what is lyft's expertise?
- Dylan16807 8y agoYou don't need an expert when you're starting out. But, uh, wasn't this about their current expenses? Or their expenses at some point after their AWS bill got bigger than 1-2 employees?
- scarface74 8y ago