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We need to drop Chrome and start using Firefox. I just switched to FF Nightly and it is really fast with GPU acceleration. Please download today!

fjsjejejdj 8y ago
Stop
ddon 8y ago
Firefox team needs to wake up and add support for PWA.
- Jonnax 8y ago
  I thought PWA was just service workers and implementing routing on the web app level. What's missing in Firefox?
  - tehbeard 8y ago
    "Integration" into the underlying OS (showing up as a desktop icon / homescreen shortcut)
    - nashashmi 8y ago
      Drag and drop url to desktop. It does the same thing. Firefox should get a head start and create a pwa store.
rosege 8y ago
I think the best browser definitely fluctuates over time. I started out with Mozilla c1995. Then have shifted through most of them at various points in time when I've become unhappy with my current choice. I went back to Firefox when they released their Quantum version and have been really happy with it. Haven't used Chrome much since then. But I'm always open to other browsers should something change in the future.
fetbaffe 8y ago
My main problem with Firefox is that it eats my batteries, otherwise I would have used it as my main browser.
- anibalin 8y ago
  Same here. Cannt use it on my mba 2012. It just to heavy on resources. Chrome handles it without more loosely.
  - fetbaffe 8y ago
    If you want to get away from Chrome my tip is to use Opera. Same engine underneath & can handle same extensions (with a proper extension installed) but without Google. Opera also has a battery saving feature.
    - dao- 8y ago
      Opera is also closed source and has been bought by some Chinese consortium, so that may not be the best option if you want to get away from Google for privacy reasons.
      - fetbaffe 8y ago
        Correct. I just think that Google is a bigger problem than this Chinese consortium. If I practically could I would avoid both. Tried running Edge for a while, which is gentle on battery, however Edge is just lacking.
        dao- 8y ago
        Using Opera only superficially sidesteps the big Google problem, as you still contribute to the Chromium monoculture that reinforces Chrome's dominance and benefits Google.
        fetbaffe 8y ago
Kurtz79 8y ago
We don't "need" to do anything. It's nice to have choiches.
- snaky 8y ago
  We need to drop Chrome and start using Firefox exactly because of that.
- rum3 8y ago
  But the internet needs it. A one-browser monopoly will not be good for anyone.
  - snaky 8y ago
    Actually it is good for an average user who doesn't care about privacy.
    - dao- 8y ago
      This doesn't even make sense. Not caring about something doesn't mean it won't be an issue for you and the people around you.
- kome 8y ago
  no, we need it; or we will go back to a fancy version of Internet Explorer 6 (that is, chrome browser): proprietary technology implementation, by a top player, against any standard... and spying on users (but that's new, I don't think IE 6 was that vicious). Web monoculture make the web worse for everybody.
  - nolok 8y ago
    It's funny, I see this comparison a lot and the people using it don't see how it misses the mark: the reason (the majority of tech) people hated SO MUCH on IE6 was not because it was proprietary, but because it was static and didn't bring get any advance, thus blocking the web's progress. Chrome doesn't have that issue, at worst you can claim it gives too much power to Google on decision about where the web goes, but not that it keeps it from progressing. It was also not respecting the standards but only after a while (at release it was at the forefront of it), and that is also not a problem that Chrome can relate to. I say that as someone who uses Chrome, enjoy it, but would also prefer if we didn't go back to a single engine being supported on the web (and I switched back to firefox on mobile, because of chrome lacks of support for ad blocking there). By confusing what the fight is about and trying to make it about what it's not, I fear you make some people like me ignore it.
stonekyx 8y ago
Not possible for me to start using Firefox until it starts to support WebSocket frame inspection..
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Having Firefox and Chrome installed is still less than the bunch of Electron based apps that are so beloved on HN.
- fps_doug 8y ago
  You know, it's not like you couldn't use one browser for work and the other one for everything else. I certainly don't need to inspect WebSocket frames while booking a flight, reading the news, chatting with family on facebook, or shitposting on HN.
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matmg 8y ago
Please, respect other people's choices.
- chii 8y ago
  Is it still a choice if the user didn't think about choosing?
DCoder 8y ago
Was this motivated by something in the release notes, or are you just taking the opportunity to bang the Firefox drum? Should we expect this comment in every Chrome-related thread?
pps 8y ago
I would love to do that, I'm testing new releases, but every time I try, my machine wants to explode https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7g6k9n/firefox_quantum_is_eating_your_cpu_help_us_debug/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7g6k9n/firefox_qua... , https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/asdkxf/firefox_on_mac_more_overheating_than_chrome/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/asdkxf/firefox_on_... , etc...

fjsjejejdj 8y ago

Stop

ddon 8y ago

Firefox team needs to wake up and add support for PWA.

Jonnax 8y ago
I thought PWA was just service workers and implementing routing on the web app level. What's missing in Firefox?
- tehbeard 8y ago
  "Integration" into the underlying OS (showing up as a desktop icon / homescreen shortcut)
  - nashashmi 8y ago
    Drag and drop url to desktop. It does the same thing. Firefox should get a head start and create a pwa store.

rosege 8y ago

I think the best browser definitely fluctuates over time. I started out with Mozilla c1995. Then have shifted through most of them at various points in time when I've become unhappy with my current choice. I went back to Firefox when they released their Quantum version and have been really happy with it. Haven't used Chrome much since then. But I'm always open to other browsers should something change in the future.

fetbaffe 8y ago

My main problem with Firefox is that it eats my batteries, otherwise I would have used it as my main browser.

anibalin 8y ago
Same here. Cannt use it on my mba 2012. It just to heavy on resources. Chrome handles it without more loosely.
- fetbaffe 8y ago
  If you want to get away from Chrome my tip is to use Opera. Same engine underneath & can handle same extensions (with a proper extension installed) but without Google. Opera also has a battery saving feature.
  - dao- 8y ago
    Opera is also closed source and has been bought by some Chinese consortium, so that may not be the best option if you want to get away from Google for privacy reasons.
    - fetbaffe 8y ago
      Correct. I just think that Google is a bigger problem than this Chinese consortium. If I practically could I would avoid both. Tried running Edge for a while, which is gentle on battery, however Edge is just lacking.
      - dao- 8y ago
        Using Opera only superficially sidesteps the big Google problem, as you still contribute to the Chromium monoculture that reinforces Chrome's dominance and benefits Google.
        fetbaffe 8y ago

Kurtz79 8y ago

We don't "need" to do anything. It's nice to have choiches.

snaky 8y ago
We need to drop Chrome and start using Firefox exactly because of that.
rum3 8y ago
But the internet needs it. A one-browser monopoly will not be good for anyone.
- snaky 8y ago
  Actually it is good for an average user who doesn't care about privacy.
  - dao- 8y ago
    This doesn't even make sense. Not caring about something doesn't mean it won't be an issue for you and the people around you.
kome 8y ago
no, we need it; or we will go back to a fancy version of Internet Explorer 6 (that is, chrome browser): proprietary technology implementation, by a top player, against any standard... and spying on users (but that's new, I don't think IE 6 was that vicious). Web monoculture make the web worse for everybody.
- nolok 8y ago
  It's funny, I see this comparison a lot and the people using it don't see how it misses the mark: the reason (the majority of tech) people hated SO MUCH on IE6 was not because it was proprietary, but because it was static and didn't bring get any advance, thus blocking the web's progress. Chrome doesn't have that issue, at worst you can claim it gives too much power to Google on decision about where the web goes, but not that it keeps it from progressing. It was also not respecting the standards but only after a while (at release it was at the forefront of it), and that is also not a problem that Chrome can relate to. I say that as someone who uses Chrome, enjoy it, but would also prefer if we didn't go back to a single engine being supported on the web (and I switched back to firefox on mobile, because of chrome lacks of support for ad blocking there). By confusing what the fight is about and trying to make it about what it's not, I fear you make some people like me ignore it.

stonekyx 8y ago

Not possible for me to start using Firefox until it starts to support WebSocket frame inspection..

pjmlp 8y ago
Having Firefox and Chrome installed is still less than the bunch of Electron based apps that are so beloved on HN.
fps_doug 8y ago
You know, it's not like you couldn't use one browser for work and the other one for everything else. I certainly don't need to inspect WebSocket frames while booking a flight, reading the news, chatting with family on facebook, or shitposting on HN.

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matmg 8y ago

Please, respect other people's choices.

chii 8y ago
Is it still a choice if the user didn't think about choosing?

DCoder 8y ago

Was this motivated by something in the release notes, or are you just taking the opportunity to bang the Firefox drum? Should we expect this comment in every Chrome-related thread?

pps 8y ago

I would love to do that, I'm testing new releases, but every time I try, my machine wants to explode https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7g6k9n/firefox_quantum_is_eating_your_cpu_help_us_debug/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7g6k9n/firefox_qua... , https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/asdkxf/firefox_on_mac_more_overheating_than_chrome/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/asdkxf/firefox_on_... , etc...