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When was the last time that two brand new Airbus planes of the same new model crashed in similar ways?

_Codemonkeyism 8y ago
When was the last time that two brand new Airbus planes of the same model crashed in similar ways and the EASA didn't ground the model?
anoncoward111 8y ago
Within 6 months of each other, out of only 400,000 flights! The fact that Americans and other Westerners died onboard and US Govt is like "lalalalalalala keep flying" shows how little they care
somecontext 8y ago
I don't know whether this is "the last time", but perhaps others might find this example informative. The A320 first crashed on literally its first passenger flight "(in service for two days)". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296 Later, an A320 crashed less than two months after delivery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Airlines_Flight_605 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Airlines_Flight_605 These two crashes, as well as a third flight later, Wikipedia describes as "a series of crashes caused, at least in part, by what was believed to be pilots' unfamiliarity with the sophisticated computer system of the Airbus A320". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Inter_Flight_148 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Inter_Flight_148 Different sources disagree on the causes of these flights. Most indicate "pilot error", but the pilots themselves and other organizations dispute these reports and instead claim design flaws with the aircraft. In general, most discussions of the accidents focus on the new fly-by-wire system.
- _0nac 8y ago
  That initial A320 flight was a demo flight for journalists where the pilot was intentionally pulling stunts like flying very low in front of spectators. Turns out he was flying lower than intended and basically plowed into the forest at the end of the runway. There was a long, still unsolved debate about where the A320 reacted correctly to the pilot's eventual commands to rev the engines and pull up, but ending up needing to do that was definitely not the plane's fault.

When was the last time that two brand new Airbus planes of the same model crashed in similar ways and the EASA didn't ground the model?

anoncoward111 8y ago

Within 6 months of each other, out of only 400,000 flights! The fact that Americans and other Westerners died onboard and US Govt is like "lalalalalalala keep flying" shows how little they care

somecontext 8y ago

I don't know whether this is "the last time", but perhaps others might find this example informative. The A320 first crashed on literally its first passenger flight "(in service for two days)". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296 Later, an A320 crashed less than two months after delivery. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Airlines_Flight_605 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Airlines_Flight_605 These two crashes, as well as a third flight later, Wikipedia describes as "a series of crashes caused, at least in part, by what was believed to be pilots' unfamiliarity with the sophisticated computer system of the Airbus A320". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Inter_Flight_148 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Inter_Flight_148 Different sources disagree on the causes of these flights. Most indicate "pilot error", but the pilots themselves and other organizations dispute these reports and instead claim design flaws with the aircraft. In general, most discussions of the accidents focus on the new fly-by-wire system.

_0nac 8y ago
That initial A320 flight was a demo flight for journalists where the pilot was intentionally pulling stunts like flying very low in front of spectators. Turns out he was flying lower than intended and basically plowed into the forest at the end of the runway. There was a long, still unsolved debate about where the A320 reacted correctly to the pilot's eventual commands to rev the engines and pull up, but ending up needing to do that was definitely not the plane's fault.