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Meanwhile I am still waiting for a free tier on the serverless workers [1] stuff they've been advertising whole of the last year. There is no real reason in pay

Meanwhile I am still waiting for a free tier on the serverless workers [1] stuff they've been advertising whole of the last year. There is no real reason in paying $5/month for 10M requests when you can't even get accustomed or do a proof of concept beforehand. [1] https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/about/how-workers-work/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/about/how-workers-...

Aissen 8y ago
Is the cost of $5/month really that high for a trial ?
- StavrosK 8y ago
  It is, when I don't know what I'm buying. Sure, I can modify my response in-flight using a worker, but how exactly? What can I do with it? It wouldn't be a big deal if I wanted to evaluate it for my company, we'd just pay the negligible fee and be done with it, but when my weekend sideproject's marginal cost goes from $0/mo to $5/mo, that's a barrier to entry I will never overcome. It's not about the $5, it's that there's very little incentive to pay it when the app is making no money.
  - orliesaurus 8y ago
    Exactly, I should have explained like you did to prevent the downvotes! Thanks for "reading my mind" on this one
    - StavrosK 8y ago
      No problem, I have exactly the same issue, and sure, Cloudflare can say "we aren't interested in the cheapskate market", but every technology I've introduced in my job where we pay tens of thousands per year for is one I was familiar with because they had a free tier.
  - RReverser 8y ago
    Not sure if someone else mentioned it already, but you actually can play with it for free on https://cloudflareworkers.com/ https://cloudflareworkers.com/. Sure, it's a limited version without binding to a specific domain and, correspondingly, without APIs to control Cloudflare-specific features, but it's often sufficient for POC transformations.
kasey_junk 8y ago
Respectfully if you can’t afford the $5 you shouldn’t be wasting dev time on a POC. And further you are signaling to cloudflare that you would be a terrible customer. If I were them I’d raise the price tier.
- jgrahamc 8y ago
  For some people $5 is a lot of money. I sympathize.
  - dbbk 8y ago
    If you're building something that requires workers you're surely already spending far more than $5 on other architecture?
    - detaro 8y ago
      "Requires"? Maybe. In a business setting, sure, $5/month should be nothing. But for "let's play with this serverless stuff and maybe use it for something real in the future", $0 AWS lambda wins over $60/y Cloudflare workers. Or for hobby projects, doing it traditionally and running it on the $60/y VPS I already have instead of spending the money. And if asked later, CF is going to be the one I can't give a direct assessment of.
  - kasey_junk 8y ago
    I too sympathize with people for whom $5 is a lot of money. I would suggest to those that have the skills to make use of cloudflare workers that there are more straightforward ways to change that problem than building proof of concepts against them.
  - amrx431 8y ago
    Not every one is paid in $. There are devs who live in countries with currencies that have lower value when compared to $.
    - mises 8y ago
bobjordan 8y ago
It’s a tough market when spending $5 bucks/month brings such anguish. Even if you only save 20hrs of development time per year at the USA minimum wage, it should be worth it. Is breakeven analysis really that difficult for so many people? For god sakes, somebody make a breakeven analysis app.
- zzzcpan 8y ago
  It doesn't work that way. A thing you have to experiment with to even know whether it could potentially work for you is just one of many such things that have to be considered and evaluated too, but you simply ignore them in your idea of analysis. You are literally justifying committing to something without knowing what it actually is.
  - bobjordan 8y ago
    It’s five bucks a month!

Aissen 8y ago

Is the cost of $5/month really that high for a trial ?

StavrosK 8y ago
It is, when I don't know what I'm buying. Sure, I can modify my response in-flight using a worker, but how exactly? What can I do with it? It wouldn't be a big deal if I wanted to evaluate it for my company, we'd just pay the negligible fee and be done with it, but when my weekend sideproject's marginal cost goes from $0/mo to $5/mo, that's a barrier to entry I will never overcome. It's not about the $5, it's that there's very little incentive to pay it when the app is making no money.
- orliesaurus 8y ago
  Exactly, I should have explained like you did to prevent the downvotes! Thanks for "reading my mind" on this one
  - StavrosK 8y ago
    No problem, I have exactly the same issue, and sure, Cloudflare can say "we aren't interested in the cheapskate market", but every technology I've introduced in my job where we pay tens of thousands per year for is one I was familiar with because they had a free tier.
- RReverser 8y ago
  Not sure if someone else mentioned it already, but you actually can play with it for free on https://cloudflareworkers.com/ https://cloudflareworkers.com/. Sure, it's a limited version without binding to a specific domain and, correspondingly, without APIs to control Cloudflare-specific features, but it's often sufficient for POC transformations.

kasey_junk 8y ago

Respectfully if you can’t afford the $5 you shouldn’t be wasting dev time on a POC. And further you are signaling to cloudflare that you would be a terrible customer. If I were them I’d raise the price tier.

jgrahamc 8y ago
For some people $5 is a lot of money. I sympathize.
- dbbk 8y ago
  If you're building something that requires workers you're surely already spending far more than $5 on other architecture?
  - detaro 8y ago
    "Requires"? Maybe. In a business setting, sure, $5/month should be nothing. But for "let's play with this serverless stuff and maybe use it for something real in the future", $0 AWS lambda wins over $60/y Cloudflare workers. Or for hobby projects, doing it traditionally and running it on the $60/y VPS I already have instead of spending the money. And if asked later, CF is going to be the one I can't give a direct assessment of.
- kasey_junk 8y ago
  I too sympathize with people for whom $5 is a lot of money. I would suggest to those that have the skills to make use of cloudflare workers that there are more straightforward ways to change that problem than building proof of concepts against them.
- amrx431 8y ago
  Not every one is paid in $. There are devs who live in countries with currencies that have lower value when compared to $.
  - mises 8y ago

bobjordan 8y ago

It’s a tough market when spending $5 bucks/month brings such anguish. Even if you only save 20hrs of development time per year at the USA minimum wage, it should be worth it. Is breakeven analysis really that difficult for so many people? For god sakes, somebody make a breakeven analysis app.

zzzcpan 8y ago
It doesn't work that way. A thing you have to experiment with to even know whether it could potentially work for you is just one of many such things that have to be considered and evaluated too, but you simply ignore them in your idea of analysis. You are literally justifying committing to something without knowing what it actually is.
- bobjordan 8y ago
  It’s five bucks a month!