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Is it though? I was a fan of the slimmed down approach. With how prolific Amazon is, most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to

by brink 8y ago

Is it though? I was a fan of the slimmed down approach. With how prolific Amazon is, most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to buy, and is better off for it. I've never had the experience of first-hand interaction with a Tesla product, but I still want one strictly due the feedback I've gotten from actual owners on Youtube. I can get a much more insightful review of the product from someone who's owned the car for 10 months, than if I were to simply sit in the car and drive it around for 10 minutes.

Voloskaya 8y ago
Average price of a cart on Amazon must be around ~15$. Minimum cart price on Tesla website is 35k$, not really comparable.
- xkjkls 8y ago
  As an interesting aside, the Tesla Model 3 is a reviewed product on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-2018-3/dp/B076H6WHPP https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-2018-3/dp/B076H6WHPP
jfk13 8y ago
> most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to buy Leading -- almost inevitably -- to a huge market in fake reviews. This doesn't seem to be a solved problem yet.
atlasunshrugged 8y ago
I'm 100% on board with that if the return process is pretty frictionless. I need to be able to test out the vehicle for a few days without making a full commitment just based on online product reviews
- spookthesunset 8y ago
  > I'm 100% on board with that if the return process is pretty frictionless. I don't see how it could be anything but a hassle. Consider: - The vehicle is financed and you'd have to unwind the financing. That has to be a pain in the ass. - You traded in your old car.
  - MBCook 8y ago
    Plus stories about Tesla being really bad at giving people their money on returns (or even cancelled/upgraded leases) quickly. I can’t afford to have most of 40k sitting in limbo for a while while Tesla figures something out. Can you?
    - dragontamer 8y ago
      > I can’t afford to have most of 40k sitting in limbo for a while while Tesla figures something out. Can you? The real answer to this question is: nobody can afford $40k in limbo. The 30-day US Treasury is at 2.44% this week. This means you get $81 / month MINIMUM if you just leave that in US Treasury Bonds. That's the lowest-risk Treasury available, you make more money with any other investment on the market.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> With how prolific Amazon is, most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to buy, and is better off for it. Amazon doesn't sell a lot of products that people are getting financing for at $30K+ prices and trading in other expensive products as part of the purchase transactions. Things like cars and homes are not the same, for people of normal financial means, as phone chargers and boxed cereal, or even big-screen TVs. (Also not convinced that online reviews are much of a benefit beyond partially compensating for problems unique to online retail, like the lack of gatekeeping.)

by brink 8y ago

Voloskaya 8y ago

Average price of a cart on Amazon must be around ~15$. Minimum cart price on Tesla website is 35k$, not really comparable.

xkjkls 8y ago
As an interesting aside, the Tesla Model 3 is a reviewed product on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-2018-3/dp/B076H6WHPP https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-2018-3/dp/B076H6WHPP

jfk13 8y ago

> most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to buy Leading -- almost inevitably -- to a huge market in fake reviews. This doesn't seem to be a solved problem yet.

atlasunshrugged 8y ago

I'm 100% on board with that if the return process is pretty frictionless. I need to be able to test out the vehicle for a few days without making a full commitment just based on online product reviews

spookthesunset 8y ago
> I'm 100% on board with that if the return process is pretty frictionless. I don't see how it could be anything but a hassle. Consider: - The vehicle is financed and you'd have to unwind the financing. That has to be a pain in the ass. - You traded in your old car.
- MBCook 8y ago
  Plus stories about Tesla being really bad at giving people their money on returns (or even cancelled/upgraded leases) quickly. I can’t afford to have most of 40k sitting in limbo for a while while Tesla figures something out. Can you?
  - dragontamer 8y ago
    > I can’t afford to have most of 40k sitting in limbo for a while while Tesla figures something out. Can you? The real answer to this question is: nobody can afford $40k in limbo. The 30-day US Treasury is at 2.44% this week. This means you get $81 / month MINIMUM if you just leave that in US Treasury Bonds. That's the lowest-risk Treasury available, you make more money with any other investment on the market.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> With how prolific Amazon is, most of the consumer market relies on reviews to discern which products to buy, and is better off for it. Amazon doesn't sell a lot of products that people are getting financing for at $30K+ prices and trading in other expensive products as part of the purchase transactions. Things like cars and homes are not the same, for people of normal financial means, as phone chargers and boxed cereal, or even big-screen TVs. (Also not convinced that online reviews are much of a benefit beyond partially compensating for problems unique to online retail, like the lack of gatekeeping.)