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https://swaywm.org https://swaywm.org should cover this right?

reaperducer 8y ago
Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying to play a video? Why not have a video, and also images which are compatible with every single browser since Netscape?
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
  There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.
  - erk__ 8y ago
    They may be using a browser that does not support vp9 such as safari or mobile browsers. Even if they support the container format webm, it does not mean that it supports all formats.
    - Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
      Sway doesn't run on macOS or mobile platforms.
      - erk__ 8y ago
        We do live in a world where people browse the internet on other machines than their primary workstation, I would even say many people browse hackernews when they are commuting or something like it.
        codetrotter 8y ago
        Indeed. I run Linux and FreeBSD on all of my computers but the vast majority of the time I spend on HN I am browsing using my iPhone. On the couch, when I am walking between places, during breaks etc.
    - adrusi 8y ago
      MDN says desktop Safari supports vp8/vorbis in webm, which should be compatible with the sway project's values, but mobile Safari doesn't support any free video codecs from what I understand. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_...
    - sandov 8y ago
      What should be done in that case? posting a video in some ancient codec (VP9 is from 2012) to be 100% sure that everyone --sans Lynx users-- can play it?
  - dllu 8y ago
    The video is pretty good. If you want to make it even easier for people, you could try a set of "tumblr-style" extremely short animations/videos, 2 seconds each, without sound, and with a written description of each. For example, you can have one for opening qutebrowser, one for opening a terminal, one for switching between tiling/tabbed, one for resizing tiles, etc. This way, people would get a good overview of features at a glance without having to sit through a two-and-a-half minute video. It is also better for hearing impaired people or people not good at listening to English. btw I run Sway on my laptop and it's really smooth and a joy to use. Thanks so much for this project!
  - Aeolun 8y ago
    Firefox Mobile? I’m seeing a black box too.
- mikenew 8y ago
  There's a short explanation and a very nice 2 minute video demonstrating how it works. I think expecting people to be able to view a webm video is pretty reasonable.
  - ZeikJT 8y ago
    Reasonable? Maybe. But the web is not restricting anyone to one file format. Why not just add some fallbacks to be even more compatible?
    - jhasse 8y ago
      Because that would be more work. Why not switch to a browser which supports webm/VP9?
peteforde 8y ago
Yes, that is the ideal place for all of the above questions to be answered. What you have there is a good start, with lots of room for expansion. For what it's worth, I was browsing HN on my iPhone and wrote my comment on my desktop - which means that I did not perceive that you had a video. While this is easily addressed by providing an mp4 encoding alongside your webm, the types of information I'm suggesting you provide would weigh down a product teaser video heavily. The ideal product video is about a minute and focuses entirely on how awesome your life will be when you have access to Sway 1.0. All of the noob questions can safely be answered using text with hyperlinks.

Should, but doesn't. This is all there is: "Sway allows you to arrange your application windows logically, rather than spatially. Windows are arranged into a grid by default which maximizes the efficiency of your screen and can be quickly manipulated using only the keyboard." Sounds interesting. No screenshots, though. Just a big black box reading "No compatible source was found for this media." I guess it's trying to play a video? Why not have a video, and also images which are compatible with every single browser since Netscape?

Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
There is a video. Are you sure you aren't using Netscape? The video is webm, which is supported by all major browsers.
- erk__ 8y ago
  They may be using a browser that does not support vp9 such as safari or mobile browsers. Even if they support the container format webm, it does not mean that it supports all formats.
  - Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
    Sway doesn't run on macOS or mobile platforms.
    - erk__ 8y ago
      We do live in a world where people browse the internet on other machines than their primary workstation, I would even say many people browse hackernews when they are commuting or something like it.
      - codetrotter 8y ago
        Indeed. I run Linux and FreeBSD on all of my computers but the vast majority of the time I spend on HN I am browsing using my iPhone. On the couch, when I am walking between places, during breaks etc.
  - adrusi 8y ago
    MDN says desktop Safari supports vp8/vorbis in webm, which should be compatible with the sway project's values, but mobile Safari doesn't support any free video codecs from what I understand. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_...
  - sandov 8y ago
    What should be done in that case? posting a video in some ancient codec (VP9 is from 2012) to be 100% sure that everyone --sans Lynx users-- can play it?
- dllu 8y ago
  The video is pretty good. If you want to make it even easier for people, you could try a set of "tumblr-style" extremely short animations/videos, 2 seconds each, without sound, and with a written description of each. For example, you can have one for opening qutebrowser, one for opening a terminal, one for switching between tiling/tabbed, one for resizing tiles, etc. This way, people would get a good overview of features at a glance without having to sit through a two-and-a-half minute video. It is also better for hearing impaired people or people not good at listening to English. btw I run Sway on my laptop and it's really smooth and a joy to use. Thanks so much for this project!
- Aeolun 8y ago
  Firefox Mobile? I’m seeing a black box too.
mikenew 8y ago
There's a short explanation and a very nice 2 minute video demonstrating how it works. I think expecting people to be able to view a webm video is pretty reasonable.
- ZeikJT 8y ago
  Reasonable? Maybe. But the web is not restricting anyone to one file format. Why not just add some fallbacks to be even more compatible?
  - jhasse 8y ago
    Because that would be more work. Why not switch to a browser which supports webm/VP9?

peteforde 8y ago

Yes, that is the ideal place for all of the above questions to be answered. What you have there is a good start, with lots of room for expansion. For what it's worth, I was browsing HN on my iPhone and wrote my comment on my desktop - which means that I did not perceive that you had a video. While this is easily addressed by providing an mp4 encoding alongside your webm, the types of information I'm suggesting you provide would weigh down a product teaser video heavily. The ideal product video is about a minute and focuses entirely on how awesome your life will be when you have access to Sway 1.0. All of the noob questions can safely be answered using text with hyperlinks.