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Bare Metal STM32 Programming and a Quadcopters Awakening

124 points by timakro 8y ago

rofo1 8y ago
Little bit off topic, but if anyone is on the fence about STM32, I strongly suggest trying out STM32 Black pill 3.3V version (https://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/5/52/Black_Pill_Schematic.pdf https://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/5/52/Black_Pill_Schematic...). It's an amazing board, Arduino-compatible, 72MHz, i/o, adc and pwm pins, uart and i2c. You can get it cheaper and just solder the header yourself. Even has a micro USB support. Truly remarkable board.
- justshashank 8y ago
  wow, thanks for that..
- ac29 8y ago
  I ordered one from here, if anyone else is looking: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-arduino/32811501377.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Mini... I can't vouch for the product or the seller, but for $2 shipped, the price is right.
- j1elo 8y ago
  I'm not an expert wrt. the clocking of these boards, how does it achieve the 72MHz? In that datasheet it looks like the onboard crystal is just 8MHz. Does it use some kind of internal clock multiplier to achieve 72MHz? Would such a magnified 8MHz to 72MHz provide a good stable clock?
  - neetdeth 8y ago
    The clock source is typically generated by a phase locked loop from the external crystal oscillator. There's a PLL multiplier and divider value that you can set obtain the desired frequency. I think the MCU starts running at a low speed from an internal RC oscillator, and then setting up the high speed clock source happens early in the initialization code. This code can be generated by ST's STM32Cube software, which is useful as a reference implementation even if you don't use the generated code in your project.
  - baobrien 8y ago
    Pretty much all clocks in modern electronics above a few MHz are generated by PLL synthesis. The synthesizers are referenced to a slower clock crystal or something along those lines. You can go way beyond just multiplication, as well, with fractional synthesis. Check out the Si5351 for a chip that packs a couple of these synthesizers. https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si5351-B.pdf https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si5351-B...
  - magicalhippo 8y ago
    As mentioned it uses PLL. The chip boots using the internal 8MHz oscillator, and you can then enable the external crystal using code. The clock configuration is actually a bit complex, you can see an example from the STM32CubeMX configuration code generator tool here: https://imgur.com/S9L6U37 https://imgur.com/S9L6U37 HS means high-speed and is used for the system clock and peripherals, while LS is low-speed and is used for the real-time clock. Peripherals have limits, like the ADC clock is shown to be 36MHz, but the maximum is 14MHz. The tool is not complaining because the ADC was not enabled for that project. Otherwise I would have to change the ADC prescaler, which take values like 2, 4, 6 etc. Thus had I enabled the ADC, I would have been forced to use a prescaler of 6, making the ADC clock 12MHz, below maximum. To get the maximum ADC frequency of 14Mhz, I would have to lower the system clock to 56Mhz. Other peripherals, like USB, also has some strict limits.
leggomylibro 8y ago
Looks like a nice write-up! ST actually sells an evaluation board for learning about drone control; it has a BTLE module, four small FETs, sensors for pressure and a 9-axis IMU, a 1S battery charging circuit, and source code for some example firmware on Github. Search for 'STEVAL-FCU001V1'. I've also seen a lot of cheap STM32-based FCU boards from the same places you'd get one of these 'blue pill' boards. These are very useful chips to learn about, because they come in all shapes and sizes. Some focus on power efficiency, others on speed, others on connectivity or signal processing, and there aren't too many differences that you need to account for in your code. Also, you can program and debug these using OpenOCD with a generic "ST-Link" module; they only cost a few bucks from cheap sources, or many of ST's evaluation boards have a built-in STLink probe which you can use. That lets you connect to the chip from GDB and step through your code like a normal C program, which is often a lifesaver.
- timakro 8y ago
  On-chip debugging with OpenOCD was actually one of the next things I wanted to try out with my drone. I need to get an ST-Link dongle because the drone doesn't have one on board. I'm not sure if JTAG will even work or if they connected a pin to some sensor or similar on the board. SWD will work for sure, I saw the two SWCLK and SWDIO connectors on the board.
  - leggomylibro 8y ago
    Cool, good luck! If you end up wanting a more 'official' STLink probe which is still pretty cheap, the ones on their 'discovery kit' and larger 'nucleo' boards can be disconnected from the main board and used with other targets. They're a little bulky, but if you're interested in bare-metal programming, the embedded Rust ebook[1] currently uses an STM32F3 discovery kit[2] as a target, and that board's user manual has instructions for using its ST-Link to program/debug an external application[3] like your drone. [1]: https://rust-embedded.github.io/book/ https://rust-embedded.github.io/book/ [2]: https://octopart.com/stm32f3discovery-stmicroelectronics-24148288 https://octopart.com/stm32f3discovery-stmicroelectronics-241... [3]: https://www.st.com/resource/en/user_manual/dm00063382.pdf https://www.st.com/resource/en/user_manual/dm00063382.pdf (PDF, see section 6.2 for STLink info)
swamp40 8y ago
Keil has a completely free version of their compiler for STM32F0, STM32G0, and STM32L0 micros: https://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk https://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk
- lsllc 8y ago
  So does GCC!
  - deleted 8y ago
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- jotux 8y ago
  With regards to tooling, if you like Visual Studio and are working on ARM processors, I can't recommend VisualGDB enough: https://visualgdb.com/ https://visualgdb.com/ It's not free ($189), but it removes so much friction from the embedded development process. I'm not affiliated with the company, just a happy customer.
- hak8or 8y ago
  I cannot reccomend against Kiel, iar, and atollic enough. They are garbage ide's (can only do string based auto complete, no dark theme, very poor window management), yet still cost a small fortune if you want to go above 32KB of flash usage or whatever other the free versions do. They also have their version of a linker script which is even worse than normal linker scripts, and if you are forced to use their compiler then often it doesn't even handle c++11. Or if it does have c++, the auto complete doesn't. Go for gcc or clang with cmake (or even just make) and use qt creator or visual studio code or others. You will get cmake based auto complete, access to a proper IDE color scheme of your choice, get to use your own compiler (clang, gcc, etc), and it's much more flexible. And for debugging be able to use a much more capable ozone from segger, or even gdb enabled backend in qt creator or clion. My work flow for example is cmake and gcc regarding tooling, qt creator or visual studio code which works with cmake to give me proper context aware auto complete, and clang-tidy as a linter running in the background. I am incredibly productive with this, and am able to make use of c++17's features to go for true zero cost abstractions, while shifting checks from runtime to the compiler via types and static asserts and whatnot. Plus, this is far more portable. No longer having to worry about project files working across diffirent versions of keil (this bit me in the ass at my last company). It's just a simple text file.
jburgess777 8y ago
STM32 chips are used on a lot of quadcopter flight controllers, often using open source firmware like Betaflight https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki
- kawsper 8y ago
  I am tracking this issue: https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5516 https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5516 I can't wait to see how a STM32H7 will perform on a quadcopter, and what it will allow for :)
- snovv_crash 8y ago
  Betaflight is oriented towards racing drones, there are a whole slew of open source autopilot firwares available. PX4 Ardupilot Cleanflight iNav etc Each is oriented towards different types of audiences based on features and license.
snazz 8y ago
I have no idea about the load carrying capacity of the drone, but it would be an awfully cool project to add an ultrasound sensor(s) and write a program for flying it around randomly indoors without hitting walls. A fancy feature might be to solve a real-life maze by flying through it. Would such a thing be possible?
- msadowski 8y ago
  Not ultrasound but at one point in my life I made this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig8IRTejn8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig8IRTejn8A (I'm even piloting in this video)
  - snazz 8y ago
    Very cool. Thank you for sharing!
- snovv_crash 8y ago
  Check out PX4/Avoidance on Github.
dbolgheroni 8y ago
Hi, interesting article, but I would like to suggest you something. While it's OK to do bare metal just using the memory locations like you did: *(uint32_t *)0x40021018 = 0x00000004; after a few days, it will become tiresome to read and to remember all those addresses. I suggest you to use the header [0] that the ST provides for STM32F1, which is included in packages such as STMCubeF1 [1], STMCubeF0, etc. For instance, instead of using the memory address directly, you could just do RCC->APB2ENR |= RCC_APB2ENR_IOPAEN; so it's easier to remember what is what. STMCubeF1 is a big package, but you won't be using the API/drivers ST provides (such as HAL and LL), just the header. As I understand, the STM32 community kind of rejects this API as "bloated". I have some examples here if you would like to take a look: https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/drv/gpio.c#L29 https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/drv/... Cheers, [0] https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/stm32cubef1/cmsis/include/stm32/stm32f103xb.h https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/stm3... [1] https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stm32cubef1.html https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stm32cubef1.html
- jotux 8y ago
  >but you won't be using the API/drivers ST provides (such as HAL and LL), just the header. As I understand, the STM32 community kind of rejects this API as "bloated". If you're not making millions of something (cost sensitive), and not running into performance issues with the HAL, just pick a microcontroller with more than enough flash and use the HAL provided by ST. It's faster to develop with, relatively robust, good performance, and it will make your code more portable. Writing directly to registers is the perfect example of premature optimization. I've spent the last ~7 years writing firmware on the NXP LPC8xx/18xx and the STM32 L0/L4/F7/H7. In that time I've only found a couple of errors in the HALs provided, and only once or twice needed to re-write some HAL code to increase performance. Using the HALs from the vendor saved me an immense amount of development time and made porting code between chips trivial.
- dmitrygr 8y ago
  *(uint32_t *)0x40021018 = 0x00000004; Actually that line is not ok. But for another reason. Without "volatile" in there, the compiler may reorder this access with others, or remove it, or combine it with others. None of that is good.
ansible 8y ago
Just FYI, I don't recommend charging LiIon or LiPo batteries in parallel, as shown in one of the pictures. There's a greater risk of fire or just general damage to the capacity of the batteries.
- kawsper 8y ago
  For the small 1S batteries you can get this style of charger for $16 that will charge in parallel: https://www.amazon.com/Happymodel-Battery-Charger-Mobula7-Quadcopter/dp/B07K7H5H6C https://www.amazon.com/Happymodel-Battery-Charger-Mobula7-Qu... But for bigger batteries I recommend buying a charger that can handle 4 or more separate batteries at a time like the SkyRC Q200 or the Turnigy TQ4, or just do like me, charge each battery individually.
ChuckMcM 8y ago
Ok, this drives me nuts ARGH! Seriously? The STM32F103? Crazy (or should that be Craze) hobbyists using "blue pill" boards because they are cheap (and they are, like $3 on ebay) which use this bastard chip of the ST Cortex-M line and they say "gee, its a really simple circuit and since they sell for so cheap on ebay it should be a good idea to use this chip!" BZZZZZZT! ST Micro makes much better CPUs that would be ideal for this application, they have things like on board DSP instructions in their floating point units, and can run at internal clock rates of 180 MHz with a megabyte of Flash and 384K of RAM, some of it very high performance (core coupled memory). These CPUs are no harder to put onto a PCB than the STM32F103 and they are so much more capable. And sure, they are $10 apiece instead of $1 apiece which is fine if you're making BILLIONS of these things, but a bespoke quadcopter? Oh but its Open Source, cool, except I can't find the PCB files anywhere, if I could I could pull out that crap chip and put in a real CPU and have OSHPark make me a few. I did find the software repo : https://github.com/Crazepony https://github.com/Crazepony and yeah, another budget quadcopter maker with a bunch of things they want to sell and an "open source" tag to try to get people to come and look. Fair enough, it made me look. It is sort of the 'freemium' hardware company model. Sigh. I'd love something bigger than the Crazflie[1] which is like real open source (PCB and everything) and smaller than a DJI Phantom that I could play around with.
- jononor 8y ago
  Shoot the Crazepony people an email and ask about the PCB design files for their 'open source' quadcopter?
  - ChuckMcM 8y ago
    I did one better than that, I shot my ST Micro rep an email and asked them if they would like a open source design on the web that showcased their new STM32F4 series with built in Wireless support and their new STSPIN BLDC controllers with built in Cortex-M0s. He was quite taken with the idea :-)
    - halbritt 8y ago
      Quadcopter pilots have been using STM32F3 for years. Check out: https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight one of the more popular flight control projects. They've been supporting STM32F4 and STM32F7 for quite some time. A typical quad flight controller with an STM32F4 and a decent MPU will set you back less than $30.
cproctor 8y ago
I can't help but wonder whether quadcopters will be where governments finally legislate control over general computation. Having access to bare metal means nobody can stop inexpensive and socially-disruptive quadcopter applications. How many years before quadcopters join rats and pigeons as the scourge of urban life, always on the prowl for unguarded power outlets or perches on power lines? Governments and/or corporations have control of the bottom layer of cell phones and TCP/IP networking. Not so for firmware and cryptography, though not for lack of trying.
msadowski 8y ago
Thanks for sharing the article! I think it would make a good addition to my WeeklyRobotics[1] series. Would you mind if I reshare it there? [1] http://weeklyrobotics.com/ http://weeklyrobotics.com/
- timakro 8y ago
  Nice series you got there, I just took a look and found some really interesting projects. I would be honored for my article to be featured there!
  - msadowski 8y ago
    I'm glad you found some interesting projects, it means I'm doing some things right! I'll most probably feature your article in the issue coming out this Sunday or a week after. Thanks!
Warwolt 8y ago
What tools did you use to make the drawings in the post? They look great!

124 points by timakro 8y ago

Little bit off topic, but if anyone is on the fence about STM32, I strongly suggest trying out STM32 Black pill 3.3V version (https://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/5/52/Black_Pill_Schematic.pdf https://wiki.stm32duino.com/images/5/52/Black_Pill_Schematic...). It's an amazing board, Arduino-compatible, 72MHz, i/o, adc and pwm pins, uart and i2c. You can get it cheaper and just solder the header yourself. Even has a micro USB support. Truly remarkable board.

justshashank 8y ago
wow, thanks for that..
ac29 8y ago
I ordered one from here, if anyone else is looking: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-arduino/32811501377.html https://www.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Mini... I can't vouch for the product or the seller, but for $2 shipped, the price is right.
j1elo 8y ago
I'm not an expert wrt. the clocking of these boards, how does it achieve the 72MHz? In that datasheet it looks like the onboard crystal is just 8MHz. Does it use some kind of internal clock multiplier to achieve 72MHz? Would such a magnified 8MHz to 72MHz provide a good stable clock?
- neetdeth 8y ago
  The clock source is typically generated by a phase locked loop from the external crystal oscillator. There's a PLL multiplier and divider value that you can set obtain the desired frequency. I think the MCU starts running at a low speed from an internal RC oscillator, and then setting up the high speed clock source happens early in the initialization code. This code can be generated by ST's STM32Cube software, which is useful as a reference implementation even if you don't use the generated code in your project.
- baobrien 8y ago
  Pretty much all clocks in modern electronics above a few MHz are generated by PLL synthesis. The synthesizers are referenced to a slower clock crystal or something along those lines. You can go way beyond just multiplication, as well, with fractional synthesis. Check out the Si5351 for a chip that packs a couple of these synthesizers. https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si5351-B.pdf https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si5351-B...
- magicalhippo 8y ago
  As mentioned it uses PLL. The chip boots using the internal 8MHz oscillator, and you can then enable the external crystal using code. The clock configuration is actually a bit complex, you can see an example from the STM32CubeMX configuration code generator tool here: https://imgur.com/S9L6U37 https://imgur.com/S9L6U37 HS means high-speed and is used for the system clock and peripherals, while LS is low-speed and is used for the real-time clock. Peripherals have limits, like the ADC clock is shown to be 36MHz, but the maximum is 14MHz. The tool is not complaining because the ADC was not enabled for that project. Otherwise I would have to change the ADC prescaler, which take values like 2, 4, 6 etc. Thus had I enabled the ADC, I would have been forced to use a prescaler of 6, making the ADC clock 12MHz, below maximum. To get the maximum ADC frequency of 14Mhz, I would have to lower the system clock to 56Mhz. Other peripherals, like USB, also has some strict limits.

leggomylibro 8y ago

Looks like a nice write-up! ST actually sells an evaluation board for learning about drone control; it has a BTLE module, four small FETs, sensors for pressure and a 9-axis IMU, a 1S battery charging circuit, and source code for some example firmware on Github. Search for 'STEVAL-FCU001V1'. I've also seen a lot of cheap STM32-based FCU boards from the same places you'd get one of these 'blue pill' boards. These are very useful chips to learn about, because they come in all shapes and sizes. Some focus on power efficiency, others on speed, others on connectivity or signal processing, and there aren't too many differences that you need to account for in your code. Also, you can program and debug these using OpenOCD with a generic "ST-Link" module; they only cost a few bucks from cheap sources, or many of ST's evaluation boards have a built-in STLink probe which you can use. That lets you connect to the chip from GDB and step through your code like a normal C program, which is often a lifesaver.

timakro 8y ago
On-chip debugging with OpenOCD was actually one of the next things I wanted to try out with my drone. I need to get an ST-Link dongle because the drone doesn't have one on board. I'm not sure if JTAG will even work or if they connected a pin to some sensor or similar on the board. SWD will work for sure, I saw the two SWCLK and SWDIO connectors on the board.
- leggomylibro 8y ago
  Cool, good luck! If you end up wanting a more 'official' STLink probe which is still pretty cheap, the ones on their 'discovery kit' and larger 'nucleo' boards can be disconnected from the main board and used with other targets. They're a little bulky, but if you're interested in bare-metal programming, the embedded Rust ebook[1] currently uses an STM32F3 discovery kit[2] as a target, and that board's user manual has instructions for using its ST-Link to program/debug an external application[3] like your drone. [1]: https://rust-embedded.github.io/book/ https://rust-embedded.github.io/book/ [2]: https://octopart.com/stm32f3discovery-stmicroelectronics-24148288 https://octopart.com/stm32f3discovery-stmicroelectronics-241... [3]: https://www.st.com/resource/en/user_manual/dm00063382.pdf https://www.st.com/resource/en/user_manual/dm00063382.pdf (PDF, see section 6.2 for STLink info)

swamp40 8y ago

Keil has a completely free version of their compiler for STM32F0, STM32G0, and STM32L0 micros: https://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk https://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk

lsllc 8y ago
So does GCC!
- deleted 8y ago
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jotux 8y ago
With regards to tooling, if you like Visual Studio and are working on ARM processors, I can't recommend VisualGDB enough: https://visualgdb.com/ https://visualgdb.com/ It's not free ($189), but it removes so much friction from the embedded development process. I'm not affiliated with the company, just a happy customer.
hak8or 8y ago
I cannot reccomend against Kiel, iar, and atollic enough. They are garbage ide's (can only do string based auto complete, no dark theme, very poor window management), yet still cost a small fortune if you want to go above 32KB of flash usage or whatever other the free versions do. They also have their version of a linker script which is even worse than normal linker scripts, and if you are forced to use their compiler then often it doesn't even handle c++11. Or if it does have c++, the auto complete doesn't. Go for gcc or clang with cmake (or even just make) and use qt creator or visual studio code or others. You will get cmake based auto complete, access to a proper IDE color scheme of your choice, get to use your own compiler (clang, gcc, etc), and it's much more flexible. And for debugging be able to use a much more capable ozone from segger, or even gdb enabled backend in qt creator or clion. My work flow for example is cmake and gcc regarding tooling, qt creator or visual studio code which works with cmake to give me proper context aware auto complete, and clang-tidy as a linter running in the background. I am incredibly productive with this, and am able to make use of c++17's features to go for true zero cost abstractions, while shifting checks from runtime to the compiler via types and static asserts and whatnot. Plus, this is far more portable. No longer having to worry about project files working across diffirent versions of keil (this bit me in the ass at my last company). It's just a simple text file.

jburgess777 8y ago

STM32 chips are used on a lot of quadcopter flight controllers, often using open source firmware like Betaflight https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki

kawsper 8y ago
I am tracking this issue: https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5516 https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/issues/5516 I can't wait to see how a STM32H7 will perform on a quadcopter, and what it will allow for :)
snovv_crash 8y ago
Betaflight is oriented towards racing drones, there are a whole slew of open source autopilot firwares available. PX4 Ardupilot Cleanflight iNav etc Each is oriented towards different types of audiences based on features and license.

snazz 8y ago

I have no idea about the load carrying capacity of the drone, but it would be an awfully cool project to add an ultrasound sensor(s) and write a program for flying it around randomly indoors without hitting walls. A fancy feature might be to solve a real-life maze by flying through it. Would such a thing be possible?

msadowski 8y ago
Not ultrasound but at one point in my life I made this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig8IRTejn8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig8IRTejn8A (I'm even piloting in this video)
- snazz 8y ago
  Very cool. Thank you for sharing!
snovv_crash 8y ago
Check out PX4/Avoidance on Github.

dbolgheroni 8y ago

Hi, interesting article, but I would like to suggest you something. While it's OK to do bare metal just using the memory locations like you did: *(uint32_t *)0x40021018 = 0x00000004; after a few days, it will become tiresome to read and to remember all those addresses. I suggest you to use the header [0] that the ST provides for STM32F1, which is included in packages such as STMCubeF1 [1], STMCubeF0, etc. For instance, instead of using the memory address directly, you could just do RCC->APB2ENR |= RCC_APB2ENR_IOPAEN; so it's easier to remember what is what. STMCubeF1 is a big package, but you won't be using the API/drivers ST provides (such as HAL and LL), just the header. As I understand, the STM32 community kind of rejects this API as "bloated". I have some examples here if you would like to take a look: https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/drv/gpio.c#L29 https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/drv/... Cheers, [0] https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/stm32cubef1/cmsis/include/stm32/stm32f103xb.h https://github.com/dbolgheroni/arm-makefile/blob/master/stm3... [1] https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stm32cubef1.html https://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stm32cubef1.html

jotux 8y ago
>but you won't be using the API/drivers ST provides (such as HAL and LL), just the header. As I understand, the STM32 community kind of rejects this API as "bloated". If you're not making millions of something (cost sensitive), and not running into performance issues with the HAL, just pick a microcontroller with more than enough flash and use the HAL provided by ST. It's faster to develop with, relatively robust, good performance, and it will make your code more portable. Writing directly to registers is the perfect example of premature optimization. I've spent the last ~7 years writing firmware on the NXP LPC8xx/18xx and the STM32 L0/L4/F7/H7. In that time I've only found a couple of errors in the HALs provided, and only once or twice needed to re-write some HAL code to increase performance. Using the HALs from the vendor saved me an immense amount of development time and made porting code between chips trivial.
dmitrygr 8y ago
*(uint32_t *)0x40021018 = 0x00000004; Actually that line is not ok. But for another reason. Without "volatile" in there, the compiler may reorder this access with others, or remove it, or combine it with others. None of that is good.

ansible 8y ago

Just FYI, I don't recommend charging LiIon or LiPo batteries in parallel, as shown in one of the pictures. There's a greater risk of fire or just general damage to the capacity of the batteries.

kawsper 8y ago
For the small 1S batteries you can get this style of charger for $16 that will charge in parallel: https://www.amazon.com/Happymodel-Battery-Charger-Mobula7-Quadcopter/dp/B07K7H5H6C https://www.amazon.com/Happymodel-Battery-Charger-Mobula7-Qu... But for bigger batteries I recommend buying a charger that can handle 4 or more separate batteries at a time like the SkyRC Q200 or the Turnigy TQ4, or just do like me, charge each battery individually.

ChuckMcM 8y ago

Ok, this drives me nuts ARGH! Seriously? The STM32F103? Crazy (or should that be Craze) hobbyists using "blue pill" boards because they are cheap (and they are, like $3 on ebay) which use this bastard chip of the ST Cortex-M line and they say "gee, its a really simple circuit and since they sell for so cheap on ebay it should be a good idea to use this chip!" BZZZZZZT! ST Micro makes much better CPUs that would be ideal for this application, they have things like on board DSP instructions in their floating point units, and can run at internal clock rates of 180 MHz with a megabyte of Flash and 384K of RAM, some of it very high performance (core coupled memory). These CPUs are no harder to put onto a PCB than the STM32F103 and they are so much more capable. And sure, they are $10 apiece instead of $1 apiece which is fine if you're making BILLIONS of these things, but a bespoke quadcopter? Oh but its Open Source, cool, except I can't find the PCB files anywhere, if I could I could pull out that crap chip and put in a real CPU and have OSHPark make me a few. I did find the software repo : https://github.com/Crazepony https://github.com/Crazepony and yeah, another budget quadcopter maker with a bunch of things they want to sell and an "open source" tag to try to get people to come and look. Fair enough, it made me look. It is sort of the 'freemium' hardware company model. Sigh. I'd love something bigger than the Crazflie[1] which is like real open source (PCB and everything) and smaller than a DJI Phantom that I could play around with.

jononor 8y ago
Shoot the Crazepony people an email and ask about the PCB design files for their 'open source' quadcopter?
- ChuckMcM 8y ago
  I did one better than that, I shot my ST Micro rep an email and asked them if they would like a open source design on the web that showcased their new STM32F4 series with built in Wireless support and their new STSPIN BLDC controllers with built in Cortex-M0s. He was quite taken with the idea :-)
  - halbritt 8y ago
    Quadcopter pilots have been using STM32F3 for years. Check out: https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight one of the more popular flight control projects. They've been supporting STM32F4 and STM32F7 for quite some time. A typical quad flight controller with an STM32F4 and a decent MPU will set you back less than $30.

cproctor 8y ago

I can't help but wonder whether quadcopters will be where governments finally legislate control over general computation. Having access to bare metal means nobody can stop inexpensive and socially-disruptive quadcopter applications. How many years before quadcopters join rats and pigeons as the scourge of urban life, always on the prowl for unguarded power outlets or perches on power lines? Governments and/or corporations have control of the bottom layer of cell phones and TCP/IP networking. Not so for firmware and cryptography, though not for lack of trying.

msadowski 8y ago

Thanks for sharing the article! I think it would make a good addition to my WeeklyRobotics[1] series. Would you mind if I reshare it there? [1] http://weeklyrobotics.com/ http://weeklyrobotics.com/

timakro 8y ago
Nice series you got there, I just took a look and found some really interesting projects. I would be honored for my article to be featured there!
- msadowski 8y ago
  I'm glad you found some interesting projects, it means I'm doing some things right! I'll most probably feature your article in the issue coming out this Sunday or a week after. Thanks!

Warwolt 8y ago

What tools did you use to make the drawings in the post? They look great!