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I would gladly pay double for the price of electricity (or more precisely double for the transmission component of the bill), maybe even triple if you give me a

I would gladly pay double for the price of electricity (or more precisely double for the transmission component of the bill), maybe even triple if you give me a hard sale. The past few falls I've been breathing in air that's more polluted than Chinese air. The reason is because PG&E doesn't have enough money to invest in infrastructure because the rates are kept low by state regulators who only see "cheap power" as their mandate.

learc83 8y ago
>that's more polluted than Chinese air. What city is this? The US doesn't have a single city in the top 500. China makes up about half of the list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-polluted_cities_by_particulate_matter_concentration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-polluted_cities_b...
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Maybe parent was in LA during the forest fires last summer? It can get up there even if only for a few weeks.
  - learc83 8y ago
    They said the past few falls though.
- kenneth 8y ago
  SF during the recent wildfires caused by faulty PG&E infrastructure (local power utility) had the worst air quality index in the world, far beyond any Chinese (or Indian/Pakistani for that matter) city.
  - snowwindwaves 8y ago
    If PG&E didn't start the fire something else would have.
  - learc83 8y ago
    The past few falls though?
jcoffland 8y ago
Bay Area power is hardly cheap. In the highest tier I'm paying $0.50/kWh base rate is about $0.20/kWh. The US average is $0.12/kWh. So I don't think the problem is PG&E offering electricity that is too cheap.
Gpetrium 8y ago
I mean, if you have the income to cover for double the electricity rate, than you would likely be required to pay more in taxes or other costs to ensure that your less fortunate neighbor can afford it and to ensure that the factory that employees 300 employees can remain competitive by giving them electricity grant. I also hope that you can get the whole neighborhood to buy into the idea for the sake of improving the air quality. As you can see, there is a lot of other variables that have to be accounted for, although I agree that we should strive for better air quality.
- jdavis703 8y ago
  My monthly electricity bill is $25-$30 a month. Heck, my cellphone bill is more than this. I’m not sure what the price of clean air is, but paying a multiple of this amount doesn’t seem like something that would break the bank.

learc83 8y ago

>that's more polluted than Chinese air. What city is this? The US doesn't have a single city in the top 500. China makes up about half of the list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-polluted_cities_by_particulate_matter_concentration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-polluted_cities_b...

seanmcdirmid 8y ago
Maybe parent was in LA during the forest fires last summer? It can get up there even if only for a few weeks.
- learc83 8y ago
  They said the past few falls though.
kenneth 8y ago
SF during the recent wildfires caused by faulty PG&E infrastructure (local power utility) had the worst air quality index in the world, far beyond any Chinese (or Indian/Pakistani for that matter) city.
- snowwindwaves 8y ago
  If PG&E didn't start the fire something else would have.
- learc83 8y ago
  The past few falls though?

jcoffland 8y ago

Bay Area power is hardly cheap. In the highest tier I'm paying $0.50/kWh base rate is about $0.20/kWh. The US average is $0.12/kWh. So I don't think the problem is PG&E offering electricity that is too cheap.

Gpetrium 8y ago

I mean, if you have the income to cover for double the electricity rate, than you would likely be required to pay more in taxes or other costs to ensure that your less fortunate neighbor can afford it and to ensure that the factory that employees 300 employees can remain competitive by giving them electricity grant. I also hope that you can get the whole neighborhood to buy into the idea for the sake of improving the air quality. As you can see, there is a lot of other variables that have to be accounted for, although I agree that we should strive for better air quality.

jdavis703 8y ago
My monthly electricity bill is $25-$30 a month. Heck, my cellphone bill is more than this. I’m not sure what the price of clean air is, but paying a multiple of this amount doesn’t seem like something that would break the bank.