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Are there any structures that kids can get involved with (or the family) that will provide some of "complex society" feel?
by yay_cloud2 8y ago
Are there any structures that kids can get involved with (or the family) that will provide some of "complex society" feel?
- hopler 8y agoChurch. Martial arts classes,or any rec class that isn't age based. Working at a family business.
- bnjms 8y agoI left the church just as every other thoughtful kid was supposed to but I miss it and worry frequently that American culture is slowly losing something which was foundational to its wellbeing.
- hopler 8y agoMaybe thoughtful kids aren't supposed to leave church after all.. maybe they just need to find a good church.
- Broken_Hippo 8y agoBy the time I was 12, church was something I was forced to do. I already doubted the whole premise, but couldn't actually say anything about it. And to top it all off, the churches my parents chose didn't really have kids my age. In sunday school, they usually had to decide which "special" class I was going to be in: THe one with older kids or the one with younger ones. It isn't like American children get any sort of voice in whether or not they go to church or which church/religion they adhere to. I didn't have access to the other things, or at least I didn't know of these places in the small town I lived in.
- inamberclad 8y agoThere are, but none of them are all-encompassing enough to replace the classroom hierarchies.
- jacobolus 8y agoSure. There are kids who work in charities, political campaigns, family businesses, get involved in local civic or religious organizations, do creative performance like music/acting/dance, prepare for/compete in sports at a professional level, start doing serious academic work (attending conferences, writing peer-reviewed papers, working in academic science labs), invent stuff, publish fiction, compose new music, contribute to open source programming projects, do serious local journalism, ..... Any significant time commitment would be easier for a kid who didn’t spend all their time in school and had decent financial support.
- goodroot 8y agoTeam sports. I grew up playing competitive hockey. I learned from a very young age that I am not special, that the team is stronger than an individual, and magic happens when everyone commits to their role. I am grateful for this gift, and attribute to it much of my present success.
- ams6110 8y agoLove hockey. It's expensive but the most fun thing my kids have done. Great life lessons on teamwork and working together to achieve something.
- malyk 8y agoSame for me. I’m nit sure if it requires playing at a competitive level or not, but playing on a team trying to accomplish a goal, battling adversity, sacraficing for each other, etc are really impactful experiences that I attribute most of my personal success to.
- bsenftner 8y agoTeam sports has too much 'coach as dictator' for non-competitive kids to develop. They are left to pasture, literally. Only the star athletes receive attention, then they bully the rest.
- watwut 8y agoDunno why this was downvoted. I have seen same dynamic to develop too.
- csa 8y agoThis definitely happens, but that’s also a bad coach. Good coaches will develop kids across the entire range of skill levels, and will consistently give them tasks that they can succeed in (at least in practice). In the US, most little league teams have “must-play” requirements, so both coaches have to play their weakest players optimally.
- yowlingcat 8y ago
- supermw 8y agoMartial Arts. Any decent school you go to will probably have men and women of all ages, sizes, races and social backgrounds. Many schools will also do "community events" which provide opportunities for families to get involved more.
- bsenftner 8y agoTrue, historically taught Martial Arts are fantastic for a well rounded development, whereas the toxic male fantasy taught at many schools is the opposite. It pays in spades to investigate a martial arts school's instructor personalities, as many are male failures attempting some type of redemption through domineering others' children.
- mrexroad 8y agoSports — playing on team or train as ref/ump (pays pretty well!), BSA scouts (find a troop that fits kid), other camps or volunteering events... etc. Lots of stuff out there...
- ams6110 8y agoSports yes. Or anything where a group or team works to accomplish a goal.
- a-saleh 8y agoAround my parts, this was supplemented by my church youth-group. I know that many other parents were taking their kids to local Scouts groups.
- op00to 8y agoI had a job. Worked for me.