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Nothing to do with eugenics. Eugenics is about selection to improve the gene pool. The issue here is to make those who have a lot of children have less childre

Nothing to do with eugenics. Eugenics is about selection to improve the gene pool. The issue here is to make those who have a lot of children have less children. Giving money, and contraceptives, and free sterilisation, and education should all be done.

ilovetux 8y ago
I agree that giving money, contraceptives, free (voluntary) sterilization and education would be a good idea, but to make the money contingent on either sterilization, the use of birth control or even a promise to not have children would have a disproportionate effect on the underprivileged and would lead to the effects of eugenics based on economic station. Edit: Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Affected_populations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Affec... > Funding of welfare mothers by HEW (Health, Education, and Welfare) covers roughy 90% of cost and doctors are likely to concur with the compulsory sterilization of welfare mothers. Threats to cease welfare occur when women are hesitant to consent.
- entity345 8y ago
  You seem to be looking for imaginary excuses and reasons not to do anything... If we don't make things happen, education by itself might take 20 years for the first results. We need to change things very quickly. We're already very late and made things worse by improving survival rates without enforcing birth control.
  - ilovetux 8y ago
    You seem to be looking for imaginary crusades. There are already a number of organizations who are actively helping in effective and thought-out ways. Planned Parenthood is a great organization which provides actual help rather than fear based, reactionary responses.
  - oblio 8y ago
    Well, the thing is, someone has to actually do it. I, for one, don't want to be the one that imposes how many kids someone can have. So knock yourself out if you want to do that ;)
imtringued 8y ago
I don't understand the point of policing birth control. Just introduce a flat child tax instead of handing out child benefits.

ilovetux 8y ago

I agree that giving money, contraceptives, free (voluntary) sterilization and education would be a good idea, but to make the money contingent on either sterilization, the use of birth control or even a promise to not have children would have a disproportionate effect on the underprivileged and would lead to the effects of eugenics based on economic station. Edit: Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Affected_populations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#Affec... > Funding of welfare mothers by HEW (Health, Education, and Welfare) covers roughy 90% of cost and doctors are likely to concur with the compulsory sterilization of welfare mothers. Threats to cease welfare occur when women are hesitant to consent.

entity345 8y ago
You seem to be looking for imaginary excuses and reasons not to do anything... If we don't make things happen, education by itself might take 20 years for the first results. We need to change things very quickly. We're already very late and made things worse by improving survival rates without enforcing birth control.
- ilovetux 8y ago
  You seem to be looking for imaginary crusades. There are already a number of organizations who are actively helping in effective and thought-out ways. Planned Parenthood is a great organization which provides actual help rather than fear based, reactionary responses.
- oblio 8y ago
  Well, the thing is, someone has to actually do it. I, for one, don't want to be the one that imposes how many kids someone can have. So knock yourself out if you want to do that ;)

imtringued 8y ago

I don't understand the point of policing birth control. Just introduce a flat child tax instead of handing out child benefits.