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True, but it's nowhere close to being final hardware. As a concept though, I think this design makes a lot more sense than Samsungs. It gets to use the same fu

True, but it's nowhere close to being final hardware. As a concept though, I think this design makes a lot more sense than Samsungs. It gets to use the same full body screen, rather than the strange tiny one Samsung does. The fold being part of the outer body also makes more sense than having a wedge inside.

rgbrenner 8y ago
I'm not so sure it makes more sense than Samsungs: 1) if the foldable screen is more delicate, samsung's design protects it. 2) In samsung's design, the outer screen is used when it's folded.. and when you unfold it you use the entire foldable screen. In Huawei's design, one side of the screen is going to be used more than the other side, and as it ages that side may start to appear different than the less used side. 3) If you drop it, you'll have to replace the entire foldable screen vs Samsung, just replacing the smaller outer screen. 4) Going on the outside, there are two creases. The inside only has one. This may make it easier to hide the crease.
- Bud 8y ago
  "Replace the entire foldable screen"? Ha. I think it's wildly optimistic to think one of these can be repaired at all.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  The screen won't crack, I don't think they're using glass. I don't actually think the screen should be more delicate than a typical OLED. I don't understand your point about the creases. You're theoretically right about the aging, but I suspect that it could be mitigated because it's fairly predictable. I think the amazing screen in the folded state, avoided duplication and great looks greatly outweigh any of the possible disadvantages. Besides maybe ... Space for components. It seems way too thin to accomodate a well sized battery with all of the added casing.
achow 8y ago
My take is Samsung went with a design which thinks of device's real life usage (thoughtful design). Whereas Huawei went for drama (stagecraft). Why? From Anandtech.. Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. At the pre-brief we weren’t able to actually get our hands on the phone, but one unit of the presenter had a notable “waviness” of the screen where the hinge was. The number one concern of the Mate X however is the fact that it is a outwards folding phone. By nature of it being a flexible display means that we’re dealing with a polymer material which is softer than glass, and thus also more scratch prone. Samsung’s inwards folding design here will be much less prone to scratches, however the Mate X will be a quite more fragile phone in this regard. In fact it seems Huawei is aware of this as they also presented a protection case in which you can slip the whole device in, trying to address this compromise of this surely better looking, but likely less practical design. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mate-x https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mat...
- entity345 8y ago
  > Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. The "Falcon Wing" hinge (note how they learned from Apple about coming up with catchy names) is the strong point of the Mate X: Everyone has been wowed by it and how it allows the phone to fold flat and to be thin. Questions about durability remain open both both the Fold and the Mate X. We shall see.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  I believe the exact opposite. Most of the time I'll want to use the phone in the folded mode and there you have the choice between a stunning full screen and an embarassing, added display. The Samsung doesn't fold flat. That makes it bulky and leads to a very problematic force distribution (2 lines). The flat folding Huawei distributes the force over the whole phone. There are already phones with OLEDs and they seem to work fine (they do have glass surfaces to distribute point loads, however). Additionally it just looks great. I'm not sure about the scratches. You could make the surface so soft it doesn't get scratched at all, but it probably wouldn't feel good. I do like matte screens that don't show scratches, but that'd slightly impair display clarity.

rgbrenner 8y ago

I'm not so sure it makes more sense than Samsungs: 1) if the foldable screen is more delicate, samsung's design protects it. 2) In samsung's design, the outer screen is used when it's folded.. and when you unfold it you use the entire foldable screen. In Huawei's design, one side of the screen is going to be used more than the other side, and as it ages that side may start to appear different than the less used side. 3) If you drop it, you'll have to replace the entire foldable screen vs Samsung, just replacing the smaller outer screen. 4) Going on the outside, there are two creases. The inside only has one. This may make it easier to hide the crease.

Bud 8y ago
"Replace the entire foldable screen"? Ha. I think it's wildly optimistic to think one of these can be repaired at all.
solarkraft 8y ago
The screen won't crack, I don't think they're using glass. I don't actually think the screen should be more delicate than a typical OLED. I don't understand your point about the creases. You're theoretically right about the aging, but I suspect that it could be mitigated because it's fairly predictable. I think the amazing screen in the folded state, avoided duplication and great looks greatly outweigh any of the possible disadvantages. Besides maybe ... Space for components. It seems way too thin to accomodate a well sized battery with all of the added casing.

achow 8y ago

My take is Samsung went with a design which thinks of device's real life usage (thoughtful design). Whereas Huawei went for drama (stagecraft). Why? From Anandtech.. Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. At the pre-brief we weren’t able to actually get our hands on the phone, but one unit of the presenter had a notable “waviness” of the screen where the hinge was. The number one concern of the Mate X however is the fact that it is a outwards folding phone. By nature of it being a flexible display means that we’re dealing with a polymer material which is softer than glass, and thus also more scratch prone. Samsung’s inwards folding design here will be much less prone to scratches, however the Mate X will be a quite more fragile phone in this regard. In fact it seems Huawei is aware of this as they also presented a protection case in which you can slip the whole device in, trying to address this compromise of this surely better looking, but likely less practical design. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mate-x https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mat...

entity345 8y ago
> Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. The "Falcon Wing" hinge (note how they learned from Apple about coming up with catchy names) is the strong point of the Mate X: Everyone has been wowed by it and how it allows the phone to fold flat and to be thin. Questions about durability remain open both both the Fold and the Mate X. We shall see.
solarkraft 8y ago
I believe the exact opposite. Most of the time I'll want to use the phone in the folded mode and there you have the choice between a stunning full screen and an embarassing, added display. The Samsung doesn't fold flat. That makes it bulky and leads to a very problematic force distribution (2 lines). The flat folding Huawei distributes the force over the whole phone. There are already phones with OLEDs and they seem to work fine (they do have glass surfaces to distribute point loads, however). Additionally it just looks great. I'm not sure about the scratches. You could make the surface so soft it doesn't get scratched at all, but it probably wouldn't feel good. I do like matte screens that don't show scratches, but that'd slightly impair display clarity.