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The fold is not perfect. Seems they were careful with not letting journalists hold the device, only showing certain things on the display, etc. See 1:28 : http

The fold is not perfect. Seems they were careful with not letting journalists hold the device, only showing certain things on the display, etc. See 1:28 : https://youtu.be/NnO08HnZf10?t=88 https://youtu.be/NnO08HnZf10?t=88

arthurcolle 8y ago
How does this compare to the Samsung Galaxy Fold? Is the Galaxy Fold "perfect" when it comes to visible screen distortion?
- pcbro141 8y ago
  I'm not entirely sure. Just from videos, I think the Samsung might be better. I haven't seen distortion in the videos I've seen. Samsung: https://youtu.be/-fcCQIdGpK8?t=175 https://youtu.be/-fcCQIdGpK8?t=175
  - xienze 8y ago
    It has a crease, Samsung just had the good sense to make sure the middle of the screen was black: https://m.imgur.com/TIbaeIi https://m.imgur.com/TIbaeIi
    - arthurcolle 8y ago
      Wow that crease is pretty glaring. For 1950? Pass
- drcode 8y ago
  Physics dictates the the samsung fold likely will have a "cleaner" fold, since it is pulled taught in the open position, whereas the huawei phone is at its loosest in the open position. But in my view the huawei concept is far better better on pretty much any other metric (pending info on durability)
  - lucb1e 8y ago
    > any other metric Care to name those? From your description, it sounds to me like the Samsung fold is sharper (probably harder to do than a loosely bent screen, yet they did it). I know very little about foldable screens, so I'm curious what other metrics I should be looking at.
    - drcode 8y ago
      Thinner, smaller bezels, grip for holding, less duplication of identical cameras, likely a more durable hinge, much larger screen, lighter.
  - achow 8y ago
    samsung fold taught in the open position, whereas the huawei phone is at its loosest in the open position. Great point!
ehsankia 8y ago
True, but it's nowhere close to being final hardware. As a concept though, I think this design makes a lot more sense than Samsungs. It gets to use the same full body screen, rather than the strange tiny one Samsung does. The fold being part of the outer body also makes more sense than having a wedge inside.
- rgbrenner 8y ago
  I'm not so sure it makes more sense than Samsungs: 1) if the foldable screen is more delicate, samsung's design protects it. 2) In samsung's design, the outer screen is used when it's folded.. and when you unfold it you use the entire foldable screen. In Huawei's design, one side of the screen is going to be used more than the other side, and as it ages that side may start to appear different than the less used side. 3) If you drop it, you'll have to replace the entire foldable screen vs Samsung, just replacing the smaller outer screen. 4) Going on the outside, there are two creases. The inside only has one. This may make it easier to hide the crease.
  - Bud 8y ago
    "Replace the entire foldable screen"? Ha. I think it's wildly optimistic to think one of these can be repaired at all.
  - solarkraft 8y ago
    The screen won't crack, I don't think they're using glass. I don't actually think the screen should be more delicate than a typical OLED. I don't understand your point about the creases. You're theoretically right about the aging, but I suspect that it could be mitigated because it's fairly predictable. I think the amazing screen in the folded state, avoided duplication and great looks greatly outweigh any of the possible disadvantages. Besides maybe ... Space for components. It seems way too thin to accomodate a well sized battery with all of the added casing.
- achow 8y ago
  My take is Samsung went with a design which thinks of device's real life usage (thoughtful design). Whereas Huawei went for drama (stagecraft). Why? From Anandtech.. Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. At the pre-brief we weren’t able to actually get our hands on the phone, but one unit of the presenter had a notable “waviness” of the screen where the hinge was. The number one concern of the Mate X however is the fact that it is a outwards folding phone. By nature of it being a flexible display means that we’re dealing with a polymer material which is softer than glass, and thus also more scratch prone. Samsung’s inwards folding design here will be much less prone to scratches, however the Mate X will be a quite more fragile phone in this regard. In fact it seems Huawei is aware of this as they also presented a protection case in which you can slip the whole device in, trying to address this compromise of this surely better looking, but likely less practical design. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mate-x https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mat...
drcode 8y ago
Is some modest bulging really a problem? I'd say it has far less of an "annoyingness factor" than even your typical phone notch.
- xienze 8y ago
  For $2k+ it better look flawless.
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timdorr 8y ago
Some stills: https://imgur.com/a/z7sgEdS https://imgur.com/a/z7sgEdS Looks pretty bad, hence not letting the journalists hold it. I think they traded thinness for display surface uniformity. The Galaxy Fold is thicker, but uses the additional size to incorporate a stronger folding mechanism, which appears to put less strain on the screen itself. Hopefully they figure this out before launch. It definitely doesn't look worthy of the $2600 sticker price in its current form.
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- chvid 8y ago
  Maybe I am stupid but I think it looks pretty good? Much better than I would expect.
  - goatherders 8y ago
    I agree. I think it looks great. If it had an apple logo the tune around here would be different
    - rootusrootus 8y ago
      If that was from Apple I'd be selling all my shares today as soon as the market opens.
    - rchaud 8y ago
      If it had an Apple logo, there would have been a weeks' worth of pricing speculation putting this at $3000, only for jaws to drop when Cook announces the price to be $2500. And we'd all be thinking "Apple's done it again!"
  - rchaud 8y ago
    It does look good, especially since it looks like it folds flat. Samsung's version (which might be more durable, who knows), when folded, looks like a wallet that's been stuffed to the gills with cards. The front-facing screen when folded looks pathetically small compared to the bulk of the device.

arthurcolle 8y ago

How does this compare to the Samsung Galaxy Fold? Is the Galaxy Fold "perfect" when it comes to visible screen distortion?

pcbro141 8y ago
I'm not entirely sure. Just from videos, I think the Samsung might be better. I haven't seen distortion in the videos I've seen. Samsung: https://youtu.be/-fcCQIdGpK8?t=175 https://youtu.be/-fcCQIdGpK8?t=175
- xienze 8y ago
  It has a crease, Samsung just had the good sense to make sure the middle of the screen was black: https://m.imgur.com/TIbaeIi https://m.imgur.com/TIbaeIi
  - arthurcolle 8y ago
    Wow that crease is pretty glaring. For 1950? Pass
drcode 8y ago
Physics dictates the the samsung fold likely will have a "cleaner" fold, since it is pulled taught in the open position, whereas the huawei phone is at its loosest in the open position. But in my view the huawei concept is far better better on pretty much any other metric (pending info on durability)
- lucb1e 8y ago
  > any other metric Care to name those? From your description, it sounds to me like the Samsung fold is sharper (probably harder to do than a loosely bent screen, yet they did it). I know very little about foldable screens, so I'm curious what other metrics I should be looking at.
  - drcode 8y ago
    Thinner, smaller bezels, grip for holding, less duplication of identical cameras, likely a more durable hinge, much larger screen, lighter.
- achow 8y ago
  samsung fold taught in the open position, whereas the huawei phone is at its loosest in the open position. Great point!

ehsankia 8y ago

True, but it's nowhere close to being final hardware. As a concept though, I think this design makes a lot more sense than Samsungs. It gets to use the same full body screen, rather than the strange tiny one Samsung does. The fold being part of the outer body also makes more sense than having a wedge inside.

rgbrenner 8y ago
I'm not so sure it makes more sense than Samsungs: 1) if the foldable screen is more delicate, samsung's design protects it. 2) In samsung's design, the outer screen is used when it's folded.. and when you unfold it you use the entire foldable screen. In Huawei's design, one side of the screen is going to be used more than the other side, and as it ages that side may start to appear different than the less used side. 3) If you drop it, you'll have to replace the entire foldable screen vs Samsung, just replacing the smaller outer screen. 4) Going on the outside, there are two creases. The inside only has one. This may make it easier to hide the crease.
- Bud 8y ago
  "Replace the entire foldable screen"? Ha. I think it's wildly optimistic to think one of these can be repaired at all.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  The screen won't crack, I don't think they're using glass. I don't actually think the screen should be more delicate than a typical OLED. I don't understand your point about the creases. You're theoretically right about the aging, but I suspect that it could be mitigated because it's fairly predictable. I think the amazing screen in the folded state, avoided duplication and great looks greatly outweigh any of the possible disadvantages. Besides maybe ... Space for components. It seems way too thin to accomodate a well sized battery with all of the added casing.
achow 8y ago
My take is Samsung went with a design which thinks of device's real life usage (thoughtful design). Whereas Huawei went for drama (stagecraft). Why? From Anandtech.. Huawei calls the new hinge system a “Falcon hinge”. It’s to be noted that this seems to be the weak-point of Huawei’s design as it doesn’t look nearly as refined as Samsung’s attempt. At the pre-brief we weren’t able to actually get our hands on the phone, but one unit of the presenter had a notable “waviness” of the screen where the hinge was. The number one concern of the Mate X however is the fact that it is a outwards folding phone. By nature of it being a flexible display means that we’re dealing with a polymer material which is softer than glass, and thus also more scratch prone. Samsung’s inwards folding design here will be much less prone to scratches, however the Mate X will be a quite more fragile phone in this regard. In fact it seems Huawei is aware of this as they also presented a protection case in which you can slip the whole device in, trying to address this compromise of this surely better looking, but likely less practical design. https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mate-x https://www.anandtech.com/show/13990/huawei-launches-the-mat...

drcode 8y ago

Is some modest bulging really a problem? I'd say it has far less of an "annoyingness factor" than even your typical phone notch.

xienze 8y ago
For $2k+ it better look flawless.
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timdorr 8y ago

Some stills: https://imgur.com/a/z7sgEdS https://imgur.com/a/z7sgEdS Looks pretty bad, hence not letting the journalists hold it. I think they traded thinness for display surface uniformity. The Galaxy Fold is thicker, but uses the additional size to incorporate a stronger folding mechanism, which appears to put less strain on the screen itself. Hopefully they figure this out before launch. It definitely doesn't look worthy of the $2600 sticker price in its current form.

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chvid 8y ago
Maybe I am stupid but I think it looks pretty good? Much better than I would expect.
- goatherders 8y ago
  I agree. I think it looks great. If it had an apple logo the tune around here would be different
  - rootusrootus 8y ago
    If that was from Apple I'd be selling all my shares today as soon as the market opens.
  - rchaud 8y ago
    If it had an Apple logo, there would have been a weeks' worth of pricing speculation putting this at $3000, only for jaws to drop when Cook announces the price to be $2500. And we'd all be thinking "Apple's done it again!"
- rchaud 8y ago
  It does look good, especially since it looks like it folds flat. Samsung's version (which might be more durable, who knows), when folded, looks like a wallet that's been stuffed to the gills with cards. The front-facing screen when folded looks pathetically small compared to the bulk of the device.