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My only worry is if they will lock down the Macintosh to only allow signed or, worse, apps from the App Store. If its just a move to ARM then cool, but I still

My only worry is if they will lock down the Macintosh to only allow signed or, worse, apps from the App Store. If its just a move to ARM then cool, but I still want to have 32GB of memory and some decent storage. That ship has sailed, I guess, but I really want a Mac Pro worthy of the name. I miss the G4 case.

apostacy 8y ago
Yeah, I agree. I seriously doubt they will take the inconvenient open-ish intel architecture to arm.
chongli 8y ago
That would mean disabling the ability to use all command line tools not included with the base system. What would Apple gain from doing that? They would certainly alienate a large number of power users in the process.
- bangonkeyboard 8y ago
  By default, macOS Mojave does not let you so much as ls many folders in your own home directory.
  - evanslify 8y ago
    Can you elaborate more?
    - bangonkeyboard 8y ago
      For example: https://i.imgur.com/hB4pPZd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hB4pPZd.jpg
xiphias2 8y ago
Macs are heavily used as development machines, so it won't be locked down for programming. It will be the first machine with programming capabilities with awesome battery life. What's even more fun is that it can mean that some companies switch to ARM servers if their environment works well for development (just what Linus told that it won't happen)
- protomyth 8y ago
  Will I be able to disable SIP when I need to?
imtringued 8y ago
I wonder why this is perceived to be a problem in the first place. Company A (apple microsoft google) wants to move to ARM from x86. x86 has all the applications that existing users want. When they move to ARM they have 0 applications. As a response they try to offer you to use ARM apps from their existing store but then they lock down the APIs that made the x86 apps possible in the first place. In other words they aren't even giving the platform a chance to grow. They expect it to be usable from the first day on. In my eyes this doesn't make any sense at all. It only took 12 years for the app market to become this big and the vast majority of apps were developed in the latter half. Why shouldn't it take less than 6 years to completely transition the old apps to the new ARM platform? However no one is willing to wait that long for some reason.

apostacy 8y ago

Yeah, I agree. I seriously doubt they will take the inconvenient open-ish intel architecture to arm.

chongli 8y ago

That would mean disabling the ability to use all command line tools not included with the base system. What would Apple gain from doing that? They would certainly alienate a large number of power users in the process.

bangonkeyboard 8y ago
By default, macOS Mojave does not let you so much as ls many folders in your own home directory.
- evanslify 8y ago
  Can you elaborate more?
  - bangonkeyboard 8y ago
    For example: https://i.imgur.com/hB4pPZd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hB4pPZd.jpg

xiphias2 8y ago

Macs are heavily used as development machines, so it won't be locked down for programming. It will be the first machine with programming capabilities with awesome battery life. What's even more fun is that it can mean that some companies switch to ARM servers if their environment works well for development (just what Linus told that it won't happen)

protomyth 8y ago
Will I be able to disable SIP when I need to?

imtringued 8y ago

I wonder why this is perceived to be a problem in the first place. Company A (apple microsoft google) wants to move to ARM from x86. x86 has all the applications that existing users want. When they move to ARM they have 0 applications. As a response they try to offer you to use ARM apps from their existing store but then they lock down the APIs that made the x86 apps possible in the first place. In other words they aren't even giving the platform a chance to grow. They expect it to be usable from the first day on. In my eyes this doesn't make any sense at all. It only took 12 years for the app market to become this big and the vast majority of apps were developed in the latter half. Why shouldn't it take less than 6 years to completely transition the old apps to the new ARM platform? However no one is willing to wait that long for some reason.