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More bad behavior that is encouraged by the AirBnb leadership. Disgusting. They could solve this problem overnight with their software but choose not to because
by matchbok 8y ago
More bad behavior that is encouraged by the AirBnb leadership. Disgusting. They could solve this problem overnight with their software but choose not to because it makes ~70% of their revenue, while at the same time claiming they are a "home-sharing" site.
AirBnb needs to go into the trash. They consume resources and push costs onto the community and neighbors, while making millions.
- pmichalina 8y agoPeople using it would beg to differ. Just don’t use their service.
- matchbok 8y agoThe platform actively harms communities. Don't be selfish.
- CaramelSauce 8y agoI
- matchbok 8y agoAnd, not or.
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- ceejayoz 8y agoNYC seems to have quite a bit of new development.
- et2o 8y agoActually not, compared to cities like Chicago.
- pjc50 8y agoThe community generally wants extremely restrictive building regulations. We're currently going through this in Edinburgh, which is a world heritage site as well. An extra complication here is that the communal stair wells of apartments are comunally owned, so landlords attaching keyboxes outside the door are usually violating the property rights of their neighbours.
- karzeem 8y agoIt harms communities by allowing housing inventory to flow to where the demand is most intense?
- duxup 8y agoI guess it is "housing" but I think you'd find a lot less housing as in traditional places you can rent or buy long term, I belive we're already seeing that with Airbnb. Then you've got even more housing problems.
- tptacek 8y agoNo, it harms communities by turning apartments into hotels. Hotels have externalities, which is why they're zoned.
- karzeem 8y agoDense, multi-use blocks are part of the magic of New York. And there are hotels comingled with residential buildings all over the city. I'm not saying tenants should be free to violate their agreements with landlords, but these uses of Airbnb are solving a problem that city laws have created (an extreme lack of housing and hotel supply). I blame those city laws as a root cause. Putting supply on Airbnb is just water moving around obstacles the laws have created.
- massivecali 8y agoThe same could be said for all foreign realestate investment where homes sit empty. (Granted that could be solved by a vacancy tax.) But people already buy places and rent them out as income property. This puts a burden on renters and increases the incentives for builders to only construct larger apartments and homes. It raises the price for everyone and poor single people suffer the most. Im not following how airbnb is worse than individuals who have profited off the community and neighbors since forever?
- matchbok 8y agoBecause renting != hotel. There is a huge different between how a tourist treats a building/apartment/neighborhood and a resident does. There are many good reasons why hotels have regulations. Mini-hotel platforms are not subject to the same things.
- massivecali 8y agoAll of the laws regarding noise, littering, loitering, smoking, etc. don't magically vanish. You have the same recourse against a renter as you would a tourist.
- ceejayoz 8y ago> All of the laws regarding noise, littering, loitering, smoking, etc. don't magically vanish. The guests do, though, which means when you call the cops again next week, it's a new person getting their first noise warning.
- massivecali 8y agoSo these apartments and condos don't have rules where you just complain to management and they kick you (the leaseholder) out?
- ceejayoz 8y agoPlenty of landlords won't want to do battle with the lucrative tenants who've rented out half the building and always pay on time. Nor do they really want to do all that work - evictions cost money, and are hard! - just to have another AirBnBer sign the replacement lease.
- smallgovt 8y ago> They could solve this problem overnight with their software Can you expand on what the software solution would look like here? I'm curious why the hotel lobby doesn't scrape Airbnb and report all the properties that are breaking regulation.
- matchbok 8y agoEliminating all listings without a host present would solve 99% of these problems. That's what the site sells itself as, anyway. Problem is there isn't much money to be made there. Or just do a tiny bit of host/property verification. Again, too much money to be made from illegal/unzoned hotels.
- smallgovt 8y agoI see. So, the legality of short-term rentals in NYC hinge on the presence of the host during the rental. And, that's not easily detectable by just scraping Airbnb. I still think it'd be straight forward to scrape reviews off Airbnb that have telltale signs of the host not being present e.g. lockbox mentions. Filing complaints/lawsuits against even a small minority should create a chilling effect for everyone else who's running illegal hotels.
- xkcd-sucks 8y agoOr, in a high density environment like NYC, prediction from scraped listings plus an actual person who verifies the host's absence and records it. Work on contract for... "The hotel industry consortium", idk how that works. It sounds fun if the market is big enough
- bradleyjg 8y agoAll or very very nearly all host not present rentals in NYC are illegal. That the software allows such listings is evidence that Airbnb doesn’t care. I suspect rather the opposite that they value the revenue they get from these illegal transactions.