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Agreed. My previous company has to deal with trolls like this. They somehow managed a patent on turning 2d pictures into 3d panoramas which Google and iPhone d

by dublo7 8y ago

Agreed. My previous company has to deal with trolls like this. They somehow managed a patent on turning 2d pictures into 3d panoramas which Google and iPhone do in the phones. We used software from Germany but since it violated the patent and we were tiny, boom lawsuit. This supreme Court ruling saved the company because we got it transferred to our state and the judge laughed them away. It would be like suing a grocery store because Microsoft word violated you're spell check patent. They only go after like guys who can't fight back.

SEJeff 8y ago
You might want to double check on "your" spell check patent :)
- johnm1019 8y ago
  His spellcheck works fine, the grammar check is broken. :)
  - mjevans 8y ago
    The English language is broken by design and historical practice with respect to spelling (borrowing when it needed to steal) and grammar; though it may possibly not be as broken as other historical languages. Also, before you propose something like Esperanto; that language appears to be the antithesis of what I'd prefer as a replacement. The general design goals being more: * a 'RISC' (rather than CISC) style use of verbal pallet (pick the most common international phonetics, not a regional 'good enough' set) * purely phonetic spelling and pronunciation (one exact way to spell or say anything and vice versa) * never mutate words for any reason (no tenses, conjugation, etc) * no pronouns (only use proper nouns or descriptive selections) * eliminate filler where possible (the, a, similar non-informational words); this would be more of an accepted grammar shift. If there is a reason for that use then more distinct and/or obvious reasons for using a replacement mechanism should be apparent and taught in standard education.
    - linux2647 8y ago
      Maybe something like Toki Pona? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
      - mjevans 8y ago
        It seems close to my goals, but violates one of the main ones related to lowering the entry barrier. All the letter (and sounds) used NEED to be pronounced, the same way, for native speakers of English, French, Russian, Spanish, and also various major (eastern) Asian languages. That means that when an otherwise uneducated (in languages/reading the squiggly version of words from a dictionary) user in one of those languages tries to read one of the words it should sound like only a slight accent, not a major flub. J should never have been used. "14 Latin letters, a e i j k l m n o p s t u w, are used to write the language. They have the same values as in the International Phonetic Alphabet:[38] j sounds like English y, and the vowels are like those of Spanish or Italian. Capital initials are used to mark proper adjectives, while Toki Pona roots are always written with lowercase letters, even when they start a sentence.[39]" -- Edit about the difference in vowels/etc: If there isn't a common ground in notation for symbols, then the writing for the language CAN'T map back to any existing phonetic symbol system either. It MAY use existing non-phonetic symbols and assign new uses for them, but it MUST NOT reuse such symbols that have conflicted mappings in existing languages.
        naniwaduni 8y ago
        > All the letter (and sounds) used NEED to be pronounced, the same way, for native speakers of English, French, Russian, Spanish, and also various major (eastern) Asian languages. That means that when an otherwise uneducated (in languages/reading the squiggly version of words from a dictionary) user in one of those languages tries to read one of the words it should sound like only a slight accent, not a major flub. This constraint effectively removes vowels from your phonetic inventory.
        jfk13 8y ago
- yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
  For emphasis, use italicization, not quotation.
ehsankia 8y ago
Is there any reason why those judges don't also laugh them away? What do those jurisdictions have to gain? You'd think that tech companies would have stronger lobbying than patent trolls. What incentives do courts have to side with patent trolls?
- rixrax 8y ago
  URL: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9UMMq2dz4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9UMMq2dz4 (Austin Myers) URL: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxcc3SM_KA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxcc3SM_KA (John Olivier) Above two YouTube videos I’ve been passing around in regard to sometimes peculiar nature of patents law in US and in particular that of eastern district of TX.
- gowld 8y ago
  Juries favor trolls because patent trolls bribe Marshall, TX (East Texas district). Maybe judges are also swayed by the bribes. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-05-25/the-texas-town-that-patent-trolls-built-j34rlmjc https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-05-25/the-te...
- SZJX 8y ago
  It's a local industry. They have a whole foodchain based on this and everybody stands to profit. I think in an earlier HN thread somebody also mentioned that in the early 20th century there were also towns that simply rob and kill any passer-by that would lodge in a hotel, with the sheriff etc. all complicit. In a sense this is typically American isn't it. Similar is how some towns would issue tickets for infringements such as jaywalking all the time without any oversight whatsoever.
  - mulmen 8y ago
    No, this is not typically American.
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by dublo7 8y ago

SEJeff 8y ago

You might want to double check on "your" spell check patent :)

johnm1019 8y ago
His spellcheck works fine, the grammar check is broken. :)
- mjevans 8y ago
  The English language is broken by design and historical practice with respect to spelling (borrowing when it needed to steal) and grammar; though it may possibly not be as broken as other historical languages. Also, before you propose something like Esperanto; that language appears to be the antithesis of what I'd prefer as a replacement. The general design goals being more: * a 'RISC' (rather than CISC) style use of verbal pallet (pick the most common international phonetics, not a regional 'good enough' set) * purely phonetic spelling and pronunciation (one exact way to spell or say anything and vice versa) * never mutate words for any reason (no tenses, conjugation, etc) * no pronouns (only use proper nouns or descriptive selections) * eliminate filler where possible (the, a, similar non-informational words); this would be more of an accepted grammar shift. If there is a reason for that use then more distinct and/or obvious reasons for using a replacement mechanism should be apparent and taught in standard education.
  - linux2647 8y ago
    Maybe something like Toki Pona? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
    - mjevans 8y ago
      It seems close to my goals, but violates one of the main ones related to lowering the entry barrier. All the letter (and sounds) used NEED to be pronounced, the same way, for native speakers of English, French, Russian, Spanish, and also various major (eastern) Asian languages. That means that when an otherwise uneducated (in languages/reading the squiggly version of words from a dictionary) user in one of those languages tries to read one of the words it should sound like only a slight accent, not a major flub. J should never have been used. "14 Latin letters, a e i j k l m n o p s t u w, are used to write the language. They have the same values as in the International Phonetic Alphabet:[38] j sounds like English y, and the vowels are like those of Spanish or Italian. Capital initials are used to mark proper adjectives, while Toki Pona roots are always written with lowercase letters, even when they start a sentence.[39]" -- Edit about the difference in vowels/etc: If there isn't a common ground in notation for symbols, then the writing for the language CAN'T map back to any existing phonetic symbol system either. It MAY use existing non-phonetic symbols and assign new uses for them, but it MUST NOT reuse such symbols that have conflicted mappings in existing languages.
      - naniwaduni 8y ago
        > All the letter (and sounds) used NEED to be pronounced, the same way, for native speakers of English, French, Russian, Spanish, and also various major (eastern) Asian languages. That means that when an otherwise uneducated (in languages/reading the squiggly version of words from a dictionary) user in one of those languages tries to read one of the words it should sound like only a slight accent, not a major flub. This constraint effectively removes vowels from your phonetic inventory.
        jfk13 8y ago
yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
For emphasis, use italicization, not quotation.

ehsankia 8y ago

Is there any reason why those judges don't also laugh them away? What do those jurisdictions have to gain? You'd think that tech companies would have stronger lobbying than patent trolls. What incentives do courts have to side with patent trolls?

rixrax 8y ago
URL: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9UMMq2dz4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9UMMq2dz4 (Austin Myers) URL: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxcc3SM_KA https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxcc3SM_KA (John Olivier) Above two YouTube videos I’ve been passing around in regard to sometimes peculiar nature of patents law in US and in particular that of eastern district of TX.
gowld 8y ago
Juries favor trolls because patent trolls bribe Marshall, TX (East Texas district). Maybe judges are also swayed by the bribes. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-05-25/the-texas-town-that-patent-trolls-built-j34rlmjc https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2017-05-25/the-te...
SZJX 8y ago
It's a local industry. They have a whole foodchain based on this and everybody stands to profit. I think in an earlier HN thread somebody also mentioned that in the early 20th century there were also towns that simply rob and kill any passer-by that would lodge in a hotel, with the sheriff etc. all complicit. In a sense this is typically American isn't it. Similar is how some towns would issue tickets for infringements such as jaywalking all the time without any oversight whatsoever.
- mulmen 8y ago
  No, this is not typically American.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]