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Also arguable if not a bit pedantic: is it really DIY if you have tens of thousands of dollars worth of machine shop tools to help you do the work? It’s more ju

Also arguable if not a bit pedantic: is it really DIY if you have tens of thousands of dollars worth of machine shop tools to help you do the work? It’s more just fabrication at that point.

theoh 8y ago
Actually, if you're using your own skills and judgement, I think it's still "making". If the job was all done with CNC and robots, then there would be a strong case that it was not DIY any more. http://promotingprimitivism.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-workmanship-of-risk-vs-workmanship.html http://promotingprimitivism.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-workman... I accept that this question (of whether personal skill and judgement is involved) might not really be the same as the question "is this really DIY?" but it's interesting all the same.
c22 8y ago
I'm pretty sure it's DIY if you Do It Yourself. I don't think it's surprising that people use tools to make stuff.
extrapickles 8y ago
A little. The design in the video can be easily adapted to need <$100 in tools though. If you are willing to bolt everything together, you only need a drill ($40 for a corded one), small number of drill bits ($20) and a hacksaw ($20). The curved metal can be approximated with 2-3 straight segments. Most of the expensive tools come from the choice to weld and have fancy curved metal bits. A bunch of the other tools are just faster than using a hacksaw.
adriveatrain 8y ago
A screwdriver A pillar drill A MIG Welder + Mask A chop saw + cutting disc A pipe bender Some spray You must have really expensive tool shops round your way
- imtringued 8y ago
  Let's be honest author of the video has a lot of tools and you omitted some of them. A lathe (how many people have that one in their toolbox?) An angle grinder A metal nibbler
rfrey 8y ago
Would you consider a woodworking project DIY if they used a tablesaw? What about a router? Metalworking tools require skill and experience to use. DIY has never meant doing something with the absolute minimum tooling or expense, although that subset of DIY projects is interesting and worthwhille. That said, if you go back through this channel’s archives, you’ll find they actually built the majority of the tools they’re using here.
DanBC 8y ago
If you want something a bit more homemade the King of Random did a few videos. Make a spot welder for cheap!! (2012): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrlvqib94xQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrlvqib94xQ Homemade Stick Welder - From Microwave Parts! (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDx3sN2dhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDx3sN2dhU (This one looks terrifying) Making an ARC Welder - Part 1 of 2 (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6oDCbcmtWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6oDCbcmtWw

Also arguable if not a bit pedantic: is it really DIY if you have tens of thousands of dollars worth of machine shop tools to help you do the work? It’s more just fabrication at that point.

theoh 8y ago

Actually, if you're using your own skills and judgement, I think it's still "making". If the job was all done with CNC and robots, then there would be a strong case that it was not DIY any more. http://promotingprimitivism.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-workmanship-of-risk-vs-workmanship.html http://promotingprimitivism.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-workman... I accept that this question (of whether personal skill and judgement is involved) might not really be the same as the question "is this really DIY?" but it's interesting all the same.

c22 8y ago

I'm pretty sure it's DIY if you Do It Yourself. I don't think it's surprising that people use tools to make stuff.

extrapickles 8y ago

A little. The design in the video can be easily adapted to need <$100 in tools though. If you are willing to bolt everything together, you only need a drill ($40 for a corded one), small number of drill bits ($20) and a hacksaw ($20). The curved metal can be approximated with 2-3 straight segments. Most of the expensive tools come from the choice to weld and have fancy curved metal bits. A bunch of the other tools are just faster than using a hacksaw.

adriveatrain 8y ago

A screwdriver A pillar drill A MIG Welder + Mask A chop saw + cutting disc A pipe bender Some spray You must have really expensive tool shops round your way

imtringued 8y ago
Let's be honest author of the video has a lot of tools and you omitted some of them. A lathe (how many people have that one in their toolbox?) An angle grinder A metal nibbler

rfrey 8y ago

Would you consider a woodworking project DIY if they used a tablesaw? What about a router? Metalworking tools require skill and experience to use. DIY has never meant doing something with the absolute minimum tooling or expense, although that subset of DIY projects is interesting and worthwhille. That said, if you go back through this channel’s archives, you’ll find they actually built the majority of the tools they’re using here.

DanBC 8y ago

If you want something a bit more homemade the King of Random did a few videos. Make a spot welder for cheap!! (2012): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrlvqib94xQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrlvqib94xQ Homemade Stick Welder - From Microwave Parts! (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDx3sN2dhU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDx3sN2dhU (This one looks terrifying) Making an ARC Welder - Part 1 of 2 (2013): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6oDCbcmtWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6oDCbcmtWw