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It doesn't bother me because it's a Chromecast, an appliance I don't want or need. If I needed something similar, I could get it from other manufacturers.
by pexaizix 8y ago
It doesn't bother me because it's a Chromecast, an appliance I don't want or need. If I needed something similar, I could get it from other manufacturers.
- arbitrage 8y agoFirst they came for the appliances I don't want or need, because I don't use appliances I don't want or need. This has been discussed to death. Slippery slope, etc., etc.
- pexaizix 8y agoI disagree. People who care about not hitting 8.8.8.8 simply do not own a Chromecast.
- deleted 8y ago[deleted]
- angusp 8y agoNot really, before you could firewall it off from the rest of your network - though now you can just masquerade 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 to your DNS server of choice
- pixl97 8y agoUntil Google implements DNS over TLS and does cert checking.
- tiew9Vii 8y agoI run an OpenBSD router with PF: pass in quick on { $lan $wireguard } proto udp to { 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 } port 53 rdr-to 192.168.2.1 Locally I run Unbound for caching, local dns zones and ad/malware domain blocking[2]. I have a DNS forwarder in Unbound configured to a local Stubby[1] instance that does dns over tls to Cloudflare. Having done "big data" contract work for the largest telco in my current country of residence who are some of the worst skilled people I have ever work with, your local ISP is highly likely abusing your DNS history profiling your household for various questionable things just as much as Google. At least with Cloudflare they have a clear privacy policy[3] and I have faith their technical skill to anonymize data and use it can't be as bad as my ISP. [1] https://dnsprivacy.org/wiki/display/DP/DNS+Privacy+Daemon+-+Stubby https://dnsprivacy.org/wiki/display/DP/DNS+Privacy+Daemon+-+... [2] https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts [3] https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv...
- lostlogin 8y agoI own one and have bought three. Cloudflare DNS for me (via a Pihole).
- snowwindwaves 8y agoare you internally masquerading 8.8.8.8 to 1.1.1.1?
- lostlogin 8y agoI just pointed the Pihole at 1.1.1.1 and added 8.8.8.8 to the block list. The Chromecast works fine with it. Not sure if the Pihole does something clever though? I’m very sure that the Chromecast does but I can see it’s traffic on the Pihole.
- fonosip 8y agoYou have to masquerade at your router. Or at the vpn. For example https://ba.net/adblock/vpn/roku-chromecast-fix.html https://ba.net/adblock/vpn/roku-chromecast-fix.html
- lostlogin 8y agoThanks.
- justizin 8y agoThis is patently false, as Paul Vixie, who created DNS, clearly owns one.
- nirvdrum 8y agoFWIW, Chrome does this as well. Its DNS prefetch feature will ignore your local hosts file and configured DNS servers. It creates annoying problems if you have a VPN where some hosts resolve differently than they do publicly. Granted, in this case if you block Google's DNS servers from routing, Chrome will use your system's name resolution configuration.
- odorousrex 8y agoTIL! This upsets me more than the Chromecast using Google's DNS. I barely use Chrome anymore (just for testing really) but the thought that any domain I wish to go to can be overridden by the browser by default - that's scary. I mean what if Google doesn't like your website's content. They can block it on their DNS server and 99.999% of Chrome users would think something was wrong with your site. Thank you, I hate it.
- DCoder 8y agoIn theory, couldn't Firefox's certificate store blacklist the TLS certificate your website uses, with the same user-confusing result?
- admax88q 8y agoI mean in theory your web browser doesn't have to respect the address bar, it can do whatever the fuck it wants. The point is what Chrome is already doing is not good behaviour.
- StreamBright 8y agoI was thinking about buying a better network device for home and have VLANs and ACLs just to take control of my internet again. It is pretty annoying that Google not only trying to track me everywhere but actively overriding system wide settings to be able to get information what sites I am visiting.
- fiddlerwoaroof 8y ago
- pizza 8y agoI think the idea is that getting Google to fix this by telling them this is unacceptable is a swifter course of action than hoping Google will notice your individual $35 purchase went elsewhere.
- subcosmos 8y agoYou mean they can't just machine-vision the expression on your face, through your webcam, when you decide against a purchase?
- brokenmachine 8y agoLol! Unfortunately only on Android 8 devices.